John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

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John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj10115 » 07 okt 2009 20:48:20

I am looking for John Larsen Lovlien, born in 1810 in Baerums Vaerk, Asker, Norway. He was born in Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker, which is close to Kongsberg. His father may be Lars Gundersen, mother is unknown. He married Berthe Katherine Andreasdatter Tislegaard on June 1, 1833. The immigrated to Madison Wisconsin USA in 1872

I am looking for information on his parents and family, perhaps information from the bygdebok. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj04741 » 07 okt 2009 21:18:11

Hi,
Just slightly confused, is John Larsen born in Bærums Verk or in Eiker? Do you know where the couple was married?

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av dn22196 » 07 okt 2009 22:01:19

Here are the marriage in 1833.Number 14 on the left side.

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Kongsberg, Ministerialbok nr. 8 (1816-1839), Ekteviede 1833, side 436-437.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-245

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av dn22196 » 07 okt 2009 22:09:39

John(Johan)was born in Fiskum 1810-1811,I havent been able to find him in the churchbook.Its not easy to read.But when he is married his name is Johan and not John.
Lisbeth;)

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Legg inn av gj04741 » 07 okt 2009 22:26:15

Hi,
Most of the church books of Eiker are digitalized.
I found one Johan Larsen born 1808 and one in 1814:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=dp06241801

The Johan Larsen born 1808, the father is Lars Erlandsen and the father of the one born in 1814 is Lars Amundsen.

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Arna Kristin

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Legg inn av 3231 » 07 okt 2009 22:51:09

The churchbook for Kongsberg tells that Johan Larsen Løvlien is christened August 26. 1810.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-300

Johannes, son of Lars Gundersen Kongsberg is christened in Asker the same day.

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Legg inn av 3231 » 07 okt 2009 23:42:18

The churchbook for Kongsberg also tells the name of Johans parents;

Lars Erlandsen and Margrethe Knudsdatter.

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Legg inn av gj04741 » 08 okt 2009 12:17:51

Hi,
Since he also mention Eiker as birth place, I wonder if the parent’s of Lars also had a son named Johan in 1808 in Eiker.

Johan, born 3rd of August 1808, baptized 18th of August.
Parents: Lars Erlandsen and Margrete Knudsdatter, residence: Raaeneie.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=dp06241801&gardpostnr=1517&personpostnr=4546&merk=4546#ovre

From the church book:
Buskerud fylke, Eiker, Ministerialbok nr. I 10 (1806-1815), Fødte og døpte 1808, side 424-425. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8489&idx_id=8489&uid=ny&idx_side=-109

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Arna Kristin

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Legg inn av gj10115 » 08 okt 2009 20:09:44

Johan Larsen Lovlien was born in Baerums Vaerk, Asker according to the 1865 census, not on Lovlien in Fiskum, as I stated earler. I am sorry about the confusion.
I understand he moved to Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker sometime after birth. Family records say he was born on August 8. 1810. I see in the record he was christened August 26, 1810 in Asker and his father was Lars Gundersen. It is difficult for me to read, so is there a mother's name there?

Thanks very much.
Mike

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Legg inn av gj03896 » 08 okt 2009 21:05:20

The parish record for Asker shows that Johannes, son of Lars Gundersen from Kongsberg and wife Magrete Johannesdr. was born on August 8, 1810 on Fossum, and baptized on August 26, 1810.

Here is the link to the page in the parish record (baptism no. 13 on the right side):

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-14

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Else B.

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Legg inn av gj04741 » 08 okt 2009 21:10:16

Hi,
I finally found the baptism record in church book of Asker, he’s baptized in August not December, entry no 13 on the right hand side. His name is written Johannes, father Lars Gundersen from Kongsberg currently living at Fos…? (not sure) and I believe his mother is Margrete Johannesd. Hopefully, someone comes along and fill in the blanks here.

Akershus fylke, Asker, Ministerialbok nr. I 5 (1807-1813), Fødte og døpte 1810, side 12. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7732&idx_id=7732&uid=ny&idx_side=-14

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Arna Kristin

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj09303 » 11 okt 2009 10:49:03

Hi

I think Magrete is one of the godparents.
Mother's are listed to the far right and her name is not given for Johannes.
I also think Lars Erlandsen and Margrethe Knudsdatter is his step-parents. They lived on Raaeneie ( a farm owned by the farm Raaen) before they moved to Kongsberg. We are not told the name of their farm.

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj03896 » 11 okt 2009 13:17:35

At the baptism, Magrete is listed as Mod., an abbreviation for Moder = Mother

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj10115 » 15 okt 2009 02:00:08

In familysearch.org, I found a Lars Erlandsen marrying Margrete Knudsdatter May 24, 1807 in
Fiskum, Eiker, Buskerud, Norway, which is where Lovlien is located. If these were Johan's stepparents, they were married three years before Johan was born.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ ... esults.asp

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Re: John Larsen Lovlien, Fiskum, Ovre Eiker

Legg inn av gj09303 » 27 okt 2009 13:25:11

Hi

I read the letters in front of Magrete as Mad = short for Madam, but not easy to read.
The column to the right lists: Modr navn og Intr dato = the mother's name and introduction date.

However:
In Øvre Eiker parish a boy by the name Ole was born June 16 and baptized June 23, 1805. His parents were Lars Gundersen and Malene Johannesdatter. They lived on Kolbrecheie.
Right page ab the middle:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-245

None of them were at Kolbrech in the 1801 census.
I have not found their marriage or Ole's confirmation. This MIGHT be the Lars Gundersen you are looking for. It is likely they would name a son Johannes/Johan after Malene's father. But are Malene and Margrete used as variations of the same name?

Can someone rule this family out?

Vivi

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