Anne Togersdtr/Taalesdtr, f. ca 1793

[gj09631]

I am looking for information on the parents, birth place, and birth date of Anne Torgersdtr/Taalesdtr, born about 1793.

She was married to Lars Larsen on 22 Feb 1816 in Stange and they had six children:

Lars Larsen, f. 12 April 1816, Vik, Stange
Tåle Larsen, f. 9 Jul 1818, Fossqvern, Romedal
Even Larsen, f. 1 Mar 1821, Fossqvern
Berthel Larsen, f. 17 Sep 1823 Fossqvern
Jens Larsen, .f 19 Mar 1826, Fossqvern
Eli Larsdtr, f. 27 Feb 1829, Sæter-eie, Tomter, Romedal


She died on 13 Mai 1831 at Sæter-eie

Takk så mye. De kan skrive på norsk.

John Reindl, Genealogist
http://www.nhohlag.org

[gj09303]

Hi


Anne was 24 when she married in 1816 and 38 when she died in 1831. This means she was born around 1792/1793. She is also listed as 24 years old when she moves into Romedal in April 1818.
It is only Anne who is listed as moving to Romedal from Stange, not her husband Lars. This might mean that Lars is from Romedal.
And there is a Lars Larssøn Fos-eyer confirmated 1809 in Romedal. (Fossqvern is a place under the farm Foss)

According to Romedalsboka vol.5 something is written about Fosskvern u. Foss in volume 4.

Confirmation of a possible Lars, no 49 at the far right:
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Anne moving into Romedal, no 44:
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Here is the burial of Anne, top:
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Vivi

[gj09303]

Hi

When Anne is moving from Stange in 1818 she is said to be 26 so probably just a mistake in the Romedal church-book.

No1:
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Vivi

[gj09303]

Hi

Godparents are often a good source to find relatives - at least when you are able to read their names...
I looked up the children I found and the godparents I notice is Jens Larsen and Christen Larsen. MIGHT be brothers of Lars?

Here is the baptism of Lars, no 21:
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Baptism of Taale, no 28:
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Baptism of Even, no 18:
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Baptism of Berthel, no 56:
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Baptism of Jens, no 17:
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Baptism of Elie, no 29:
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Vivi

[gj17048]

This seems to be a family that has moved back and forth between Romedal and Stange. When their son Lars marries i 1844, it is noted that he was born in Stange, lived in Romedal for some years, and now is back in Stange.

Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Stange, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1835-1845), Ekteviede 1844, side 233.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-235

The bygdebok for Stange has (as far as I can see) just one mention of this family, and that is in connection with the marriage of their son Lars to Petronelle. The couple emigrated after being married, and that is probably the reason why this family is looked for in America?

Mvh Bente

[Thomas Nilssen]

Hei!
-jeg skriver på norsk:)

Det finnes en Taale i Romedal i det aktuelle tidspunktet Anne er født:

Taale Andersen Haarstadstuen, f. ca. 1772, g.m Lisbet Larsdatter Jensbergstuen. De giftet seg i Romedal kirke 26. april 1791 (nr. 11)
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De fikk sitt første barn Anders i 1791, døpt 1. januar 1792 i Romedal kirke. Familien bor da i Jensbergstuen (Jønsbergstuen) i Romedal. (nr. 7)
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Så går det 5 år før de får sitt neste barn, Lars, døpt i Romedal kirke 20. mars 1796. Familien bor da i Bergstuen i Romedal. (nr. 42)
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Jeg har lett etter flere barn i perioden mellom Anders og Lars, uten at jeg har greid å finne noen. Det er litt uvanlig at det går hele 5 år mellom første og andre barn. Sånn sett passer Anne godt inn i denne familien, uten at jeg har greid å finne henne innført i noen kirkebøker.

Her er familien i 1801:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 8237000726

Thomas

[gj17048]

Hei!

Så vidt jeg kan se, er det kun ved dåpen til Jens i 1826 at Anne er oppført som Taalesdatter. Ellers er hun konsekvent benevnt Torgersdatter.

Ble det ikke skilt mellom Torger og Taale den gangen slik at en kan lete etter både Torgersdatter og Taalesdatter, eller skal en lete etter Anne Torgersdatter?

Mvh Bente

[Thomas Nilssen]

Navnene ble nok brukt om hverandre. Den ene sønnen deres heter jo Taale, åpenbart oppkalt etter Annes far.
'Min' Taale har også hatt Torger som en variant. Jeg ville nok lett etter både Torger- og Taalesdatter.

Thomas

[dn05604]

Anne Taalesdatter/Torgersdatter er IKKE f. i Romedal mellom 1785 og 1800.
Denne Taale Andersen g. 1791 het ikke Taale men Tollef da han giftet seg og det er brukt Taale og Tollef på han nda barna ble døpt, Anders 1792, Lars 1796, JOhannes 1799, Gulbrand 1802, Ingeborg 1805 og Ole 1811.

[gj09303]

Hi

There is a Anne Torgersdatter baptised Aug. 1793 in Nes. Parents Torger Christensen and Berthe Nielsdatter.

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In the 1801 census:
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Vivi

[gj09631]

Hei Vivi ~

The Anne Torgersdtr born in Nes is an interesting possibility. I found a listing in Del 1 of the Nes Bygdebok on page 362 and her confirmation in the Nes Ministerialbok for 1808.
(Kildeinformasjon: Hedmark fylke, Nes, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1802-1814), Konfirmerte 1808, side 402-403. Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-85, listing 23 on the far right.)

This person makes sense with the name of Anne's son Berthel, in that the son could have been named in honor of Anne's mother, Berte Nilsdtr.

For this Anne, both of her parents died in 1809, when Anne was only 16 years old. I was not able to find emigration records for Nes from 1809 to 1816, when the Anne that I am looking for married Lars Larsen.

John

[gj09631]

Hei Bente ~

This emigration was not known to the family before and a new emne was established to see if more information could be obtained.

This was a very early emigration -- the emigration that was known was in the 1890's, when a grandson of Lars Larsen and Anne Torgersdtr (Henrik Jensen Bjerke) emigrated from Moelv.

Thansks so much -- this has opened up a whole new branch of the family in the US.

John

[gj09631]

Hi Vivi ~

One of the challenges for finding information on Lars Larsen is that besides the confirmation at Fos-eyer in 1809, there are two other Lars Larsen's confirmed at the same time.

If it can be assumed that the milling profession is transferred from generation to generation, then I think that this is the correct Lars. His sons were also millers, so it seems likely that this is the correct man, but it would be good to have more definite information.

Best wishes,

John




Anne was 24 when she married in 1816 and 38 when she died in 1831. This means she was born around 1792/1793. She is also listed as 24 years old when she moves into Romedal in April 1818.
It is only Anne who is listed as moving to Romedal from Stange, not her husband Lars. This might mean that Lars is from Romedal.
And there is a Lars Larssøn Fos-eyer confirmated 1809 in Romedal. (Fossqvern is a place under the farm Foss)