Heinrick Larsen

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Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj05515 » 22. juni 2015 kl. 12.18

Hello,

I am trying to find information on this family. The information is from the marriage of Heinrick Larsen to Mary Jane Kennedy, 12 Sep 1886 in Melbourne, Australia:

Heinrick Larsen, born ca. 1856 in Eidsvold, Norway (30 years old in 1886)
Father: railroad worker, Peter Larsen
Mother: Bertha Heinricksen

This is the only information known. I know the birth records for Eidsvold for this time frame were destroyed by fire, but I can not find a church confirmation record. I can not find the family in the 1865 or 1875 census, either.

Any ideas?

Mange takk,

Brian

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av 23058 » 22. juni 2015 kl. 16.36

:)

Henrik Larsens confirmation was probably around 1871(t.i. if he still was in Norway) and the church burned down in 1877.

Maybe the family emigrated before the 1865 census :?:

I found a family tree on Ancestry. Do not know if the info is correct.

Peder Larsen was married twice. First with Anne Marie Henriksdatter who died in 1855. Then with Berthe Marie Eriksdatter, who is the mother of Henrik.


Peder (peter) Larsen
Birth 11 Jan 1824 in Roysieie ovre, Eidsvold, Akershus, Norway
Death 30 March, 1906 in Sevier, Utah

1. wife
Anne Marie Henriksdtr
Birth 28 May 1825 in Eidsvold, Akershus, Norway
Death 15 Oct 1855 in Frilseteie, Eidsvold, Akershus, Norway



John G Pedderson
1845 – 1926

Hans Pedersen
1851 –

Martin Lauritz Pedersen
1853 – 1933

John Pedersen
1855 –



2. wife

Berthe Marie Ericksen
Birth 1 February 1828 in Hedmarken, Akershus, Norway
Death 9 August 1903 in Spanish Fork, UT, Utah, United States



Henrick Henry Larsen
1856 – 1896

Ellen Andrea Petersen
1858 – 1862

Edward Pedersen
1860 – 1886

Lars Eng Pedersen
1864 – 1910
Mvh
Anne Lisbeth

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 22. juni 2015 kl. 18.32


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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj05515 » 22. juni 2015 kl. 19.37

Thank you Anne and Tove.

I have been looking at this family also. Here is the family in 1865:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webce ... =3758#ovre

Marie is listed as "Olsdatter" instead of "Eriksdatter", but it is the correct family. If Henrik was born in 1856, I wonder why he is not listed in the 1865 or 1875 census.

I can not find any records that show Henrik (Heinrick) born about 1856.

Brian

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 22. juni 2015 kl. 20.08


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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj12185 » 23. juni 2015 kl. 4.09

Hi Brian.
I wonder what is the source for your information?

There are a couple of things that strike me as a bit odd: A son Heinrich of Peder Larsen would normally be named with the use of a patronymicon in Eidsvoll in 1830, they did not start to use fixed surnames until the end of the century, i.e. his name would be Henrich/Henrik Pedersen. On the other hand, they often used the freedom as an immigrant in a new country to take a new name as well!

You say he was married in Melbourne, but there is info here about families in USA, how did he end up in Australia?

You may ask a question about railroad personell to Carsten Schanche, in the forum at Digitalarkivet, to check if Peder/Peter Larsen is listed:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/368-noen-som-oensker-oppslag-i-de-norske-jernbaner-og-deres-personale/?hl=jernbane
Med vennlig hilsen, Olaf Larsen.

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj05515 » 23. juni 2015 kl. 6.38

Hi Olaf,

Here is the source for the information, I have attached the marriage record for Heinrick Larsen. It says he was 30 years old in 1886 (born 1856), born in Eidsvold, son of Peter Larsen and Bertha Heinrichsen.

I know the parents we are looking at went to Utah, as did their other children. I see no proof that it is the correct family, but I can't find a better choice, either.

I agree, of course, that he should have been Heinrick Petersen/Pedersen, but as you said, many emigrants used their father's last name instead of first name.

Too bad so many records for Eidsvold were burned. I don't know how we can prove this is the correct family.

Brian
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 23. juni 2015 kl. 10.14

Peder Larsen (widower) and Birthe Marie Eriksdatter were married in Nes (Fenstad church) 17th September 1856 (No. 35)

Perhaps you should look for Henrik being born in Nes ?
I found that Edvard was born 5th January 1861 in Nes (Fenstad)

Kildeinformasjon: Akershus fylke, Nes, Ministerialbok nr. I 7 (1846-1858), Ekteviede 1856, side 276.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-271
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 020663.jpg

Tove DJ

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj12185 » 24. juni 2015 kl. 2.51

I cannot make Tove's link above work, but I looked it up with the new search system, and this marriage confirms what Anne Lisbet found in USA, and it is most likely the family in the 1875 census. If it is the correct Henrik/Heinrick/Hendrik is another question.

New link to the marriage above:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060307020663
Viet (Married) Nr. 35, Sept. 17 1856, NOTE: the word Ungkarl (Bachelor) is replaced by Enkemann (Widower), Peder Larsen, 32 1/2, and Pige (Maiden) Birthe Marie Eriksdatter, 26
Brudgommen f Røise i Eidsvold, bosatt Frilseteie do.(?) (samme sted).
Groom's birthplace Røise in Eidsvoll, current residence Frilset Eie (also in Eidsvoll)
Hans fars navn: (his father's name) Lars Pedersen
Brudens Opholdssted: (bride's residence) Staxvold Eie
Hennes fars navn: (her father's name) Erik Christophersen
Forlovere: Bernt Andersen og Ole Olsen Frilset
Lysningsdager: 13, 20, 27 Juli 1856, forlangt av brudgommen
Brudg: forige ægteskab XXX ( noe jeg ikke kan lese) Attest XXX af 14. Juli 1856
Grooms last marriage XXX (I can't read it - presumably 'ended by death' or similar wording), attestation from XXX July 14. 1856

Peder Larsen's confirmation was October 6, 1839, his first communion was October 11, 1839, in Eidsvold Church. His residence was Øvre Røisieie. (page 48 )

There is a confirmation of a Hendrik Pettersen, residence Tønsagereie in Eidsvold Church in 1873, page 152

http://www.disnorge.no/cms/system/files ... 0-1880.pdf

I found the last child Lars, nr. 178, born September 1. 1864, baptised Oktober 16 1864 in Eidsvold church, parents Peder Larsen and wife Berthe Marie Eriksdatter, residing at farm Aas Eie. The birth records for the children before him are lost.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060313010973

His confirmation in Eidsvoll church 19. oktober 1879: Lars Pedersen, residence Trollerud Eie.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060309010262

Henrik's mother's name is given as Berthe Heinrichsen: In Hurdal, formerly a part of the Eidsvoll parish, there are some Berthe Hendriksens to be found, but I cannot find any child Hendrik in 1856.
Med vennlig hilsen, Olaf Larsen.

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Re: Heinrick Larsen

Legg inn av gj20720 » 26. juli 2015 kl. 17.11

Hi Brian Gaber

Birthe Marie Eriksdatter, (dtr of Erik Christophersen Staxvoldeie) is sister of my gr.gr.grandfather Ole Eriksen Høigaard.1824-1891

Tom Larsen

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