Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
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- Marit Nyhus
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Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei
Vi forsøker å finne igjen denne damen som ble født i Vallset 10/1-1868.
Emigrerte til Amerika 8/8-1885
Finnes et bilde av henne tatt hos forograf Bergström i Waco Texas, så hun kan antageligvis ha bodd der.
Ifølge familien kom hun aldri tilbake til Norge og det er sagt at hun mest sannsynlig døde i Texas i 20-årsalder uten at det er bekreftet.
Kan noen være behjelpelig med å finne litt opplysninger om henne i Amerika?
Takk
Mvh
Marit Nyhus
Vi forsøker å finne igjen denne damen som ble født i Vallset 10/1-1868.
Emigrerte til Amerika 8/8-1885
Finnes et bilde av henne tatt hos forograf Bergström i Waco Texas, så hun kan antageligvis ha bodd der.
Ifølge familien kom hun aldri tilbake til Norge og det er sagt at hun mest sannsynlig døde i Texas i 20-årsalder uten at det er bekreftet.
Kan noen være behjelpelig med å finne litt opplysninger om henne i Amerika?
Takk
Mvh
Marit Nyhus
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei Marit!
Just tried a search at Heritage Quest (I don't use Ancestry)...
In the 1920 Mclennan county, Waco Texas USA census I find this person:
Mattie Christopherson age 52, a widow, with a daughter, Elise age 23 (born in Texas).
Immigration year not given for Mattie...but she came from Norway.
Wonder if there is a possible connection to the person you are searching for...
Did I understand correctly that she died in the 1920s? (my Norwegian is not perfect!..sorry)
mvh Patty
Just tried a search at Heritage Quest (I don't use Ancestry)...
In the 1920 Mclennan county, Waco Texas USA census I find this person:
Mattie Christopherson age 52, a widow, with a daughter, Elise age 23 (born in Texas).
Immigration year not given for Mattie...but she came from Norway.
Wonder if there is a possible connection to the person you are searching for...
Did I understand correctly that she died in the 1920s? (my Norwegian is not perfect!..sorry)
mvh Patty
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei igjen!
In 1910, "Matta" Christofferson is in the same location, in Waco Texas.
Immigration year given as 1885...and she is a widow with 2 children:
Elise, age 14 and Julian E. age 13 (a son)..
So I was wondering if "Margarethe"...could be "Matta/Mattie" over here?
Usually Mattie is short for Madaline...
mvh Patty
In 1910, "Matta" Christofferson is in the same location, in Waco Texas.
Immigration year given as 1885...and she is a widow with 2 children:
Elise, age 14 and Julian E. age 13 (a son)..
So I was wondering if "Margarethe"...could be "Matta/Mattie" over here?
Usually Mattie is short for Madaline...
mvh Patty
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Hello Patty
Thank you for your help searching Inger Margrethe.
The family believe that she died before she turned 30 years but it is not confirmed
so it could be the one you have found but we need more information to confirm this.
Is it possible to find out when Mattie was married?
I have found them on Family search too , here in 1910 where Matties immigration year is 1885
https://www.familysearch.org/search/rec ... _488958569
Here is one son too Julian E.
I have now found Matties graveinformation in Find a grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 61&df=all&
Here it says that she is born in 1866, our Inger Margrethe is born in 1868. Maybe an obit can tell us if this is the right person??
Marit
Thank you for your help searching Inger Margrethe.
The family believe that she died before she turned 30 years but it is not confirmed
so it could be the one you have found but we need more information to confirm this.
Is it possible to find out when Mattie was married?
I have found them on Family search too , here in 1910 where Matties immigration year is 1885
https://www.familysearch.org/search/rec ... _488958569
Here is one son too Julian E.
I have now found Matties graveinformation in Find a grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 61&df=all&
Here it says that she is born in 1866, our Inger Margrethe is born in 1868. Maybe an obit can tell us if this is the right person??
Marit
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Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
From FS https://www.familysearch.org/search/rec ... M5J-RH7/p1
Here she is called Martha or Mattie Anderson Christofferson.
Her fathers name was Anders.
Could this be her, i must say this is exciting
Marit
Here she is called Martha or Mattie Anderson Christofferson.
Her fathers name was Anders.
Could this be her, i must say this is exciting
Marit
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei Marit!
I found this same Mattie in the 1900 census(as a widow)...I wonder if this is the wrong person (?) since it gives her birth as May 1867...which differs from what you found at findagrave...
But then again, there may be hope if people were just unsure of her exact birth info?????
I am not very good at finding obits...but I know others in this forum are good at that!
I hope the info I found might lead to your Margrethe...
In 1900, the son, Julian, is age 3 and like "Mattie" is listed as a servant....
I wonder what a 3 year old boy would do as a servant!!!
mvh Patty
I found this same Mattie in the 1900 census(as a widow)...I wonder if this is the wrong person (?) since it gives her birth as May 1867...which differs from what you found at findagrave...
But then again, there may be hope if people were just unsure of her exact birth info?????
I am not very good at finding obits...but I know others in this forum are good at that!
I hope the info I found might lead to your Margrethe...
In 1900, the son, Julian, is age 3 and like "Mattie" is listed as a servant....
I wonder what a 3 year old boy would do as a servant!!!
mvh Patty
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Oh, and I see from your info at your first entry she was born in January, 1868....
Hmmm.....
But surely things are often wrong in the census records "over here"...
Så kanskje det er ennå håpe? (how was THAT?)
mvh Patty
Hmmm.....
But surely things are often wrong in the census records "over here"...
Så kanskje det er ennå håpe? (how was THAT?)
mvh Patty
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Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
I'm also beginning to believe that this is the wrong person.
I found in FS an death sertificate of Mattie and her birthday says may 4, 1866
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ima ... 6552_02796
And her birthplace is Oslo, Norway.
These certificates should be correct i think so it is probably not the right person
Marit
I found in FS an death sertificate of Mattie and her birthday says may 4, 1866
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ima ... 6552_02796
And her birthplace is Oslo, Norway.
These certificates should be correct i think so it is probably not the right person
Marit
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei igjen Marit!
So the search goes on...
If she died before the 1900 census (before she was 30)....we have no censuses to find her in...so that is hard...
mvh Patty
So the search goes on...
If she died before the 1900 census (before she was 30)....we have no censuses to find her in...so that is hard...
mvh Patty
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei. Inge Margrethe var søster til min tippoldefar.
I boka "Norge i Texas" av Odd Magnar Syversen, 1982 står følgende innslag:
Neste person som er nevnt i boka er samme person som står som neste innslag i utvandrerprotokollen etter Inge MargretheUtflyttede fra Romedal nemlig Dorthea Henriksdatter Jølstadengen. Dette kan jo tyde på at Inge Margrethe er samme som Mattie Andersen, men isåfall er foreldrene som står i boka feil.
Da Inge Margrethes far var 80 år (7.oktober 1921) sto det et innslag i Hamar Stiftstidene artikkel. Der står det bl annet at hans 3 døtre døde i 20-års alderen.
Her er to bilder av Inge Margrethe: Fotograf Bergstrom
Fotograf WD Jackson
I boka "Norge i Texas" av Odd Magnar Syversen, 1982 står følgende innslag:
1885/16: Margrethe (Mattie) Andersen, * May 1867, em fra Romedal, var 1900 kokke i Waco, d a Martinus Andersen og Eli, død 5 Dec 1960, bgr Norse. Gift med Christopher Christoffersen (ikke norsk?) Ekteskapet oppløst. To barn:
1. Elise Christofferson, * 25 Apr 1895, død 10 Feb 1979, bgr Norse, ug.
2. Julian E. Christofferson, * 9 Jul 1896
Neste person som er nevnt i boka er samme person som står som neste innslag i utvandrerprotokollen etter Inge MargretheUtflyttede fra Romedal nemlig Dorthea Henriksdatter Jølstadengen. Dette kan jo tyde på at Inge Margrethe er samme som Mattie Andersen, men isåfall er foreldrene som står i boka feil.
Da Inge Margrethes far var 80 år (7.oktober 1921) sto det et innslag i Hamar Stiftstidene artikkel. Der står det bl annet at hans 3 døtre døde i 20-års alderen.
Her er to bilder av Inge Margrethe: Fotograf Bergstrom
Fotograf WD Jackson
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
En ting til: Finner ingen andre "Margrethe"r født i Romedal i 1867, vet ikke hvor forfatteren av Norge i Texas har funnet Martinus Andersen og Eli som foreldre. Hvis det hadde vært korrekte foreldre burde hun vel stått som Martinusdatter/sen og ikke Andersen. Finner heller ingen andre utvandrede Margrether i utvandrerlistene på digitalarkivet, så det jo en del som tyder på at det er samme person.
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
1900 United States Federal Census about Mattie Chislpheson
Name: Mattie Chislpheson
Home in 1900: Waco Ward 4, McLennan, Texas
[Waco, McLennan, Texas]
Age: 35
Birth Date: May 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885
Relationship to head-of-house: Servant
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Marital Status: Divorced
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J F Marshall 55
Josie D Marshall 54
Ned Marshall 28
J F Marshall 26
Percy Marshall 16
Mattie Chislpheson 35
Julian Chislpheson 3
Wm Washington 44
Name: Mattie Chislpheson
Home in 1900: Waco Ward 4, McLennan, Texas
[Waco, McLennan, Texas]
Age: 35
Birth Date: May 1867
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885
Relationship to head-of-house: Servant
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Marital Status: Divorced
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J F Marshall 55
Josie D Marshall 54
Ned Marshall 28
J F Marshall 26
Percy Marshall 16
Mattie Chislpheson 35
Julian Chislpheson 3
Wm Washington 44
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1920 United States Federal Census about Mattie Christofferson
Name: Mattie Christofferson
[Mattie Christolpeson]
Home in 1920: Waco Ward 6, McLennan, Texas
Age: 52
[32]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
[abt 1888]
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Christofferson 52
[32]
Elise Christofferson 29
[23]
1920 United States Federal Census about Julian E Christofferson
Name: Julian E Christofferson
[Julien C Christoffers]
Home in 1920: Fort Worth Ward 2, Tarrant, Texas
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Texas
Mother's Birth Place: Texas
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Julian E Christofferson 23
Name: Mattie Christofferson
[Mattie Christolpeson]
Home in 1920: Waco Ward 6, McLennan, Texas
Age: 52
[32]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
[abt 1888]
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Christofferson 52
[32]
Elise Christofferson 29
[23]
1920 United States Federal Census about Julian E Christofferson
Name: Julian E Christofferson
[Julien C Christoffers]
Home in 1920: Fort Worth Ward 2, Tarrant, Texas
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Texas
Mother's Birth Place: Texas
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Julian E Christofferson 23
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Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Julian Edward Christofferson
Name: Julian Edward Christofferson
City: Topeka
County: Shawnee
State: Kansas
Birthplace: Texas;United States of America
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1896
FHL Roll Number: 1643922
DraftBoard: 2
Social Security Death Index about Julian Christoffers
Name: Julian Christoffers
SSN: 461-09-6385
Last Residence: 76107 Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas, United States of America
Born: 9 Jul 1896
Died: Jul 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)
Name: Julian Edward Christofferson
City: Topeka
County: Shawnee
State: Kansas
Birthplace: Texas;United States of America
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1896
FHL Roll Number: 1643922
DraftBoard: 2
Social Security Death Index about Julian Christoffers
Name: Julian Christoffers
SSN: 461-09-6385
Last Residence: 76107 Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas, United States of America
Born: 9 Jul 1896
Died: Jul 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)
Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
1910 United States Federal Census about Wattie Christobborson
Name: Wattie Christobborson
[Matta Christofferson]
[Mattie Christofferson]
Age in 1910: 42
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Waco Ward 6, McLennan, Texas
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Male
[Female]
Year of immigration: 1885
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wattie Christobborson 42
Lise Christobborson 14
Julian E Christobborson 13
Name: Wattie Christobborson
[Matta Christofferson]
[Mattie Christofferson]
Age in 1910: 42
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Waco Ward 6, McLennan, Texas
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Male
[Female]
Year of immigration: 1885
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wattie Christobborson 42
Lise Christobborson 14
Julian E Christobborson 13
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Re: Inge (r) Margrethe Andersdatter Haukaasen
Hei
Kan det være at det er rett person likevel, vet jo at de amerikanske tellingene ikke helt er til å stole på men.
Dette er muligens datteren Elises gravsted http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 62&df=all&
Marit
Kan det være at det er rett person likevel, vet jo at de amerikanske tellingene ikke helt er til å stole på men.
Dette er muligens datteren Elises gravsted http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 62&df=all&
Marit