Døde Erik Thormod Thokle i Amerika i september 1918?
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Døde Erik Thormod Thokle i Amerika i september 1918?
Min tipp-oldemors bror Erik Thokle (1837–1870) oppr. fra Molde g.m. Thordine [Tina] Mari(n)e Eid (1813–etter 1875) bodde i Hvidtsten/Vestby der han var tollbetjent, sannsynligvis fra ca 1855.
De er, med 3 barn registrert ved FT1865 for Vestbye i bolig "Udsigten".
Deres sønn Erich/Erik Thormod Thokle f 23/10 1856 i Vestby (f.ø. ikke funnet som konfirmant der), flyttet en gang etter farens død i oktober 1870 til Kristiania, der han ved FT1875 for Kristiania bor med moren og søsteren Hertha i Maribogade 8.
Han ble senere registrert som Sømand og Maler, ved utreise fra Kristiania 19/9 1902 til New York med Angelo-linjen.
Han skal iflg. familiens gamle papirer ha dødd – ugift – i Washington D.C. den 25/9 1918 – men dette er aldri bekreftet. Kanskje er der noen med tilgang til gode databaser som kan verifisere dødsfallet?
De er, med 3 barn registrert ved FT1865 for Vestbye i bolig "Udsigten".
Deres sønn Erich/Erik Thormod Thokle f 23/10 1856 i Vestby (f.ø. ikke funnet som konfirmant der), flyttet en gang etter farens død i oktober 1870 til Kristiania, der han ved FT1875 for Kristiania bor med moren og søsteren Hertha i Maribogade 8.
Han ble senere registrert som Sømand og Maler, ved utreise fra Kristiania 19/9 1902 til New York med Angelo-linjen.
Han skal iflg. familiens gamle papirer ha dødd – ugift – i Washington D.C. den 25/9 1918 – men dette er aldri bekreftet. Kanskje er der noen med tilgang til gode databaser som kan verifisere dødsfallet?
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Name: Erik Thokle
Titles:
Residence: Washington city, Washington, District of Columbia
Birth Date: Oct 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head-of-Household:
Spouse Name:
Spouse Titles:
Spouse Birth Place:
Father Name:
Father Titles:
Father Birthplace: Norway
Mother Name:
Mother Titles:
Mother Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name: Amanda Weeks
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Years Married:
Estimated Marriage Year:
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year: 1890
Enumeration District: 0092
Sheet Number and Letter: 19A
Household ID: 351
Reference Number: 16
GSU Film Number: 1240162
Image Number: 00341
Household Gender Age
Amanda Weeks F
Erik Thokle M
Kirk Alderton M
Jas L Alderton M
Titles:
Residence: Washington city, Washington, District of Columbia
Birth Date: Oct 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head-of-Household:
Spouse Name:
Spouse Titles:
Spouse Birth Place:
Father Name:
Father Titles:
Father Birthplace: Norway
Mother Name:
Mother Titles:
Mother Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name: Amanda Weeks
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Years Married:
Estimated Marriage Year:
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year: 1890
Enumeration District: 0092
Sheet Number and Letter: 19A
Household ID: 351
Reference Number: 16
GSU Film Number: 1240162
Image Number: 00341
Household Gender Age
Amanda Weeks F
Erik Thokle M
Kirk Alderton M
Jas L Alderton M
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Erik Thokle
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1902
Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Carthaginian
Er "decorator + painter" av yrke. Skal til Washington DC. Har bodd i USA 1881-1902, Boston og Washington DC. Bor i 233 Penn Avenue.
Name: Erik Thokle
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1902
Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Carthaginian
Er "decorator + painter" av yrke. Skal til Washington DC. Har bodd i USA 1881-1902, Boston og Washington DC. Bor i 233 Penn Avenue.
Re: Døde Erik Thormod Thokle i Amerika i september 1918?
Dette var interessant, og gir meg helt ny informasjon
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Margit,
your answer indicates that he initially emigrated to the U.S. approx. 12 years (or more; pls. read answer #2) before the date I referred to (which I didn't know) -- he must have returned to Norway some time before re-emigrating in 1902?
Image Number: 00341; Does this mean that there is a photo of him reg'd in some immigration archives?
Hanne Line,
dine opplysninger er også svært velkomne! Registreringen du viser til, sier at han dro via Glasgow, med SS Carthaginian til NY i 1902, etter allerede å ha bodd 'over there' i hele 21 år! Hvilket register? Er der digitale sider jeg kan laste ned der han er oppført, tro?
Lurer på hvor lenge (og hvorfor) han var hjemme i Norge en tur?
Men det store, store spørsmålet er ikke besvart:
Døde han, og av hvilken årsak, i 1918 i Washington D.C.?
Margit,
your answer indicates that he initially emigrated to the U.S. approx. 12 years (or more; pls. read answer #2) before the date I referred to (which I didn't know) -- he must have returned to Norway some time before re-emigrating in 1902?
Image Number: 00341; Does this mean that there is a photo of him reg'd in some immigration archives?
Hanne Line,
dine opplysninger er også svært velkomne! Registreringen du viser til, sier at han dro via Glasgow, med SS Carthaginian til NY i 1902, etter allerede å ha bodd 'over there' i hele 21 år! Hvilket register? Er der digitale sider jeg kan laste ned der han er oppført, tro?
Lurer på hvor lenge (og hvorfor) han var hjemme i Norge en tur?
Men det store, store spørsmålet er ikke besvart:
Døde han, og av hvilken årsak, i 1918 i Washington D.C.?
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Only census image
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.
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Re: Døde Erik Thormod Thokle i Amerika i september 1918?
Margit,
Thanks a lot, I really do appreciate your help.
I wonder if you may find his presumed death in Washington D.C. on Sept. 25, 1918 as well?
Thanks a lot, I really do appreciate your help.
I wonder if you may find his presumed death in Washington D.C. on Sept. 25, 1918 as well?
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I have no access to deaths in Washington, D.C.
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What is your source for him dying on that date in Washington, D.C.????
I have access to newspapers in Washington D.C. in that time period, but I would like to know your source before starting to go through them.
I have access to newspapers in Washington D.C. in that time period, but I would like to know your source before starting to go through them.
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Re: Døde Erik Thormod Thokle i Amerika i september 1918?
My only source are pretty old family notes (from the 1930's, I believe), I once got them from my (now deceased) father.
The notes were never confirmed.
The papers just tell that Erik Thormod Thokle died in Washington D.C. September 25, 1918, and that he emigrated from Norway as a 'sailor & painter'.
I have never known that he lived in the U.S. as early as 1881-1902 (Boston and Washington D.C. - address: 233 Penn. Avenue); can't find him anywhere in the databases.
But Margit, pls. do not use too much time on this -- though it would be OK to know the circumstances around his early death.
I do appreciate your contributions to this topic so far
The notes were never confirmed.
The papers just tell that Erik Thormod Thokle died in Washington D.C. September 25, 1918, and that he emigrated from Norway as a 'sailor & painter'.
I have never known that he lived in the U.S. as early as 1881-1902 (Boston and Washington D.C. - address: 233 Penn. Avenue); can't find him anywhere in the databases.
But Margit, pls. do not use too much time on this -- though it would be OK to know the circumstances around his early death.
I do appreciate your contributions to this topic so far
Sist redigert av gj08067 den 07 feb 2011 23:13:18, redigert 1 gang totalt.
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Well, I checked the newspaper up to September 29, 1918 and I did not see him. There were hundred's listed as dying in the World War and dying of influenza.
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Hanne Line Osberg Eide skrev:New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Erik Thokle
Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1902
Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Carthaginian
Er "decorator + painter" av yrke. Skal til Washington DC. Har bodd i USA 1881-1902, Boston og Washington DC. Bor i 233 Penn Avenue.
Dette er ganske interessant, Hanne, for essensen i det du og Margit skriver, er at han reiste ut fra Norge (i alle fall) 3 ganger;
1881 - 1890 - 1902.
Hvor har du opplysningene fra, at han var bosatt i Boston (evt. Washington D.C.) helt fra 1881?
Har du mer spesifikke opplysninger/dokumentasjon rundt hans tid(-srom) i disse byene?