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Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 25 nov 2010 16:32:52

Carl Johan Wilhelmsen F 09.7 1877 i Bergen. Foreldre Ole Christian Wilhelmsen og Gjertine Amalie Olsen.

Emigrerte til statene 15 September 1896, State of Minnisota. Reisemål er oppgitt som Amk Duluth Minn. Reiste med Thingvalla fra Copenhagen.( ref ellis island).


Carl Wilhelmsen døde 4 Mai 1957 i Bergen.

Lurer på om det er mulig å finne ut hva vedkommende livnærte seg av og hvor han bodde i Minnisota. Noen som kan hjelpe eller har tips for å finne ut dette`?

på forhånd takk!


Emigrerte
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... merk=37557

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 2892120812

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 25 nov 2010 17:13:10

Hei Joakim!

Did I read the Ellis Island record wrong?...looks to me that his destination is Philladelphia, PA...where does it say he is going to Duluth?
Sorry if I misread the info you gave...

mvh Patty

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 25 nov 2010 17:55:48

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... merk=91612

Here it says hes travelling destination were Duluth. But i dont know for sure, maybe Ellis Island have the correct information.

It is possible that he lived in Philadelfia, would be nice to know for sure..

On the link above, its written that he came home for a visit after 25 years away, and that hes living in State of Minn....

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 25 nov 2010 18:09:45

Hei igjen!

OK!! found him in Duluth in 1920 "Carl Wiliamson" age 42, and working in a hotel.
He is single, and immigration year is 1896.

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 25 nov 2010 18:31:32

holy grocery, great information...were did you find this?

do you have an adresse on him, or do you know wich hotel he was working in?

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 25 nov 2010 18:38:00

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Carl Williamson
Home in 1930: Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota
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Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Bert Skog 44
Elizabeth Skog 38
Carl Williamson 52
Nels Viseth 63

Not convinced he is the right one, immigrated in 1910 here. Porter in a restaurant.
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 25 nov 2010 18:40:33

However, one never knows.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Carl John Williamson
City: Superior
County: Douglas
State: Wisconsin
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1877
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1674994
DraftBoard: 1

Closest relative is a Severin or Severine in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 25 nov 2010 18:50:32

This is definetly our man. He brother is Severin so it makes sense. Iv read before that he was a porter so its definetly Carl.

Were do you find this info?

Many thanks to you! :D

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 25 nov 2010 18:53:05

Hei Joakim!
I find it at ancestry.com

Today is Turkey Day here in the USA, so soon I will go eat my fill of Turkey and be Thankful. :roll: :wink:
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 19:13:25

Kan da dette være din Carl i 1895?

Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
about Carl Williamson
Name: Carl Williamson
Census Date: 1895
County: Steele
Locality: Merton
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1877

Oppdatering: Nei, forresten, glem denne :!:
Dette er en annen Carl som er født i juli 1876 i følge census 1900, han finnes også igjen 1910 og 1920 som gift med Edit i Steele.


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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 19:14:27

Happy Turkey Day, Margit :lol:


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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 25 nov 2010 19:24:21

Hei Joakim!

In 1920 he is living on Superior Street in Duluth.
I see the info that Vigdis has found in 1910, but I think that is a different "Carl" than the one in the 1920 and 1930 censuses in Duluth.

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 19:30:09

Patty Dahl skrev:Hei Joakim!

In 1920 he is living on Superior Street in Duluth.
I see the info that Vigdis has found in 1910, but I think that is a different "Carl" than the one in the 1920 and 1930 censuses in Duluth.

mvh Patty


I deleted my posting about the census 1910, because I saw it was the wrong person. See also my updated posting according census 1895.

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 19:34:34

Her er census 1920 som Patty referer til. Han bor sammen med en hel flokk logerende, og har yrket "Hansman" på Hotell.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Earl Wiliamson
Name: Earl Wiliamson
[Carl Wiliamson]
[Carl Maleamsan]
Home in 1920: Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of immigration: 1896
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wilbur Rools 61
Chas Vilkin 65
Wiliam Hass 40
Chas Marin 36
[26]
Chas Johnson 50
John Emkin 35
[85]
Crist Beckman 34
Artur Otlife 37
Brar Bergamene 33
Henry T Moa 56
Chas Frank 31
[21]
Selmer Halverson 27
Bedu Ely 58
Oscar Johnson 28
Abel Weick 23
J J Olson 53
Mic Bergsten 44
Dan Rodsett 33
John A Johnsen 45
[48]
Adolf Johnson 36
Rob Smith 46
James Mcdonald 62
Ben Hogan 47
Oleo Nelson 50
John Carlson 40
George Ross 42
Chester Bunes 35
[25]
Albert Gustafson 29
George Wall 47
and Anderson 37
Healmar Anderson 22
Carl Axnis 27
John Fredrikson 40
Frank Mcdonald 38
John Carlson 30
Carl Perrey 29
[39]
Ermno Earrmas 33
[23]
Earl Wiliamson 42
John K Brunskill 65
Water Ridgmen 29


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Legg inn av dn25872 » 25 nov 2010 20:45:38

http://www.ancestry.com- is it worth registering on this site and pay 12 dollars for it? Is it alot of good information on this site?

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 25 nov 2010 20:54:25

Hei Vigdis...

So they are "lodgers" (boarders) listed with Carl in the 1920 census. Some of them may be loggers (working with wood/trees)...
Did I confuse that "point"??

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 21:12:50

Hi

No, I see no loggers, but lodgers (column no 6, showing the relative to the head), and the most of the lodgers were laborer (column no 26).

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 25 nov 2010 22:13:53

Hei igjen Vigdis!!
I looked at the census page before Carl's name..Some of the people listed are laborers working with "woods"...so some may be loggers...or they may be working in a sawmill...
Sorry I did not mean to get off the track...

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 22:51:25

Ja, hei igjen Patty

Yes, you may see it in that way. But anyway, whatever their occupations were, they where lodgers ;)


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Legg inn av 23856 » 25 nov 2010 23:00:05

Joakim Onestad skrev:www.ancestry.com- is it worth registering on this site and pay 12 dollars for it? Is it alot of good information on this site?


You will not get access to the orginal records without membership. These records do often contain more detailed information than the transcribed records, eg occupation / workplace, parents birth places, year of marriage, numbers of children born and alive etc.

If this is your only relative, or you only have few ones, who emigrated to America, you will may be get the information you need from the helpers in this forum. But if you have a large numbers of american relative, and will try to search for information by yourselves, I will recommend a memebership.

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 26 nov 2010 16:07:05

Thanks.

Is there any way to find hes workplace or spesific adresse?

Sincerely Joakim

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av 23856 » 26 nov 2010 16:29:15

Det står at han jobber på restaurant i census 1930, men det står ikke hvilken eller hvor. Gateadressen East Superior Street i Duluth, St. Louis.

I 1920 bodde han også i denne gaten og han jobber på hotell, som "Hansman", eller kanskje det er Hausman?

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 26 nov 2010 16:41:28

Jeg tenker han var en "handyman" jeg. Men her er originalen, så får Joakim se hva som virkelig ligger på Ancestry
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 26 nov 2010 17:23:24

While that is true, I find these databases, which are free :shock: :shock: :D to have just as much information as ancestry, and sometimes more. They have the images you can look at and save also as well as many State census records which are not available at ancestry.

https://beta.familysearch.org/

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsea ... tml#p=home

Click on browse by location or

Search or browse our record collections.
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 26 nov 2010 17:54:38

For example:
Here is my great grandfather in the 1895 census records. Attached is the actual record.

John O Nysetvold
Minnesota State Census, 1895
birth: 1850 — Norway
residence: Flom, Norman, Minnesota
record title: Minnesota State Census, 1895
name: John O Nysetvold
residence: Flom, Norman, Minnesota
age: 45y
estimated birth year: 1850
place of birth: Norway
race (original): W
gender: Male
line number: 9
family number: 12
page number: 2
gsu film number: 000565792
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 26 nov 2010 17:59:28

I just found Carl Williamson here:

https://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordD ... u8TUc%253D

It looks that if you have an account, you can see a picture of him. Anyone with an account can upload the photo?

Would be great to watch!

Many thanks for the replays in this thread.

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 26 nov 2010 18:06:50

Yes, but was he living in America in 1895? The accounts are free, just sign up.
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 26 nov 2010 18:15:40

At some point he left the states and headed beck to norway. I cant find any information about wich year...is that registerd anywhere?

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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av gj06100 » 26 nov 2010 18:41:25

Hei!
I think the Carl in the 1895 census is the same Carl who Vigdis found in the 1910 census in Steele county, MN. In 1910, this Carl Williamson is age 33 (so born about 1877), and he is married to Edith...and they have children. This Carl immigrated 1879/1880 (depending on the census record you look at)...

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Legg inn av 23856 » 26 nov 2010 18:47:01

Joakim Onestad skrev:I just found Carl Williamson here:

https://beta.familysearch.org/s/recordD ... u8TUc%253D

It looks that if you have an account, you can see a picture of him. Anyone with an account can upload the photo?

Would be great to watch!

Many thanks for the replays in this thread.


I don't think this one is your Carl. There is one Carl living in Steele in 1910, 1920 and 1930 as well, and he is married with Edith and has not the correct birth date in a WW1 record I found:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Carl E Williamson
County: Steele
State: Minnesota
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1875
Race: White

And here are 3 off Carl Williams in 1930: 1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Carl Williamson
Birth: abt 1878 - Norway
Residence: 1930 - Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota

Name: Carl Williamson
Spouse: Ida Williamson
Birth: abt 1879 - Norway
Residence: 1930 - Tacoma, Pierce, Washington

Name: Carl E Williamson
Spouse: Edith M Williamson
Birth: abt 1875 - Norway
Residence: 1930 - St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota

The Carl from Steele in other cenuses:

Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Carl Williamson
Birth: abt 1877 - Norway
Residence: 1895 - Steele

Name: Carl Williamson
Spouse: Edith Williamson
Birth: 1877 - Norway
Arrival: 1880
Residence: 1910 - Owatonna Ward 2, Steele, Minnesota

Name: Carl E Williamson
Spouse: Edith M Williamson
Birth: abt 1876 - Norway
Arrival: 1878
Residence: 1920 - Owatonna Ward 2, Steele, Minnesota


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Legg inn av Laila Normann Christiansen » 28 nov 2010 15:51:31

Joakim, å registrere seg på Familysearch er gratis og "ufarlig" så det bør du gjøre :)

Dersom din Carl Wilhelmsen reiste tilbake til Norge, og var der i 1910-tellinga som kommer om få dager, vil han være reigstrert der med informasjon om når han kom tilbake tror jeg. Det er i hvertfall en kolonne der for returnerte "emigranter".

Ofte glemmer vi nå Familysearch sine fantastiske databaser til fordel for Ancestry. FS har mange baser, og ofte bedre indeksering enn de har gjort i Ancestry. Jeg sliter litt med den nye søke-motoren til Ancestry og, blir ikke helt venner med den.
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 29 nov 2010 19:47:17

About Ole Severin Wilhelmsen, born 1873 in Bergen, Norway, can you see if he got married and what happend to him in the state? I may have som living relatives in the states..

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2010 19:50:57

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Severino Williamson
[Severine Williamson]
Age in 1910: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Spouse's name: Fannie Williamson
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 34, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1895
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Household Members:
Name Age
Severino Williamson 36
Fannie Williamson 27
Arthur Williamson 5
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2010 19:53:32

:?: :?: :wink:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Ole Severin Williamsen
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 13 May 1873
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1907958
DraftBoard: 49
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2010 19:59:41

:wink:

He is a barber.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole S Williamson
[Ola S Hillman]
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 46, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Fannie F Williamson
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1890
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole S Williamson 46
Fannie F Williamson 36
Arthur M Williamson 14
Thelma S Williamson 9
Anna F Christensen 54
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2010 20:28:47

:wink: took a bit to find them:

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole S Williamson
Home in 1930: Haverford, Delaware, Pennsylvania
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Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Fanny W Williamson
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace:
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Household Members:
Name Age
Ole S Williamson 54
Fanny W Williamson 47
Thelma Williamson 18
Chestine Enna 68
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 29 nov 2010 20:32:53

possible son to them?

Social Security Death Index
Name: Arthur Williamsen
SSN: 183-05-4858
Last Residence: 33599 Clearwater, Pinellas, Florida, United States of America
Born: 5 Feb 1905
Died: Sep 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
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Re: Carl Johan Wilhelmsen

Legg inn av dn25872 » 05 jan 2011 12:33:48

Very possible. Can you see when and where Severinge Died? thanks very much for all the informastion!

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