3 søsken til Amerika

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3 søsken til Amerika

Legg inn av dn19818 » 06 jul 2010 20:37:12

Kristine Hansine f. 05.06.1867, Hanna f. 25.01.1877 og Ludvig f. 13.10.1879 alle Frøya dro til Amerika. Kristine reiste ut først 1888, men var på besøk på heimplassen Sørdal på Frøya under folketellingen for 1900. Der er hun oppgitt som gift gaardmannskone fast bopel Iowa.
I 1900 reiste hennes søsken Hanna og Ludig til Iowa, link her
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/we ... n=EMITROND
(Utreisen til Kristine i 1888 er også her)
Deres foreldre på Frøya er Oluf Sigvardt Halvorsen f. 11.11.1840 på Berget, Frøya
og kone Stina Margretha Christiansdatter f. 02.05.1844 Tuvnes Frøya.
De bodde alle på gården Sørdal i Gurvikdal Frøya.
Barna brukte Olufsen/dtr., Sigvardsen/dtr., og Sørdal som etternavn (eller i kombinasjon)

Finner ikke videre spor etter de 3, hverken her eller i Iowa som kansje er rette plassen å lete. Kristine til Sioux Falls, Dakota i 1888 og det er vel nesten grenseby til Iowa.
Kristine har tydeligvis stiftet familie, men med hvem,når og eventuelle barn?? og når reiste hun, (hvis hun da gjorde det) etter besøk i 1900?
Hanna 23 år og Ludvig 20 år, hvor ble de av, gift, barn, dødø etc.??
Alle opplysninger stopper opp med utreisen.
All hjelp mottas med stor takk!
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Legg inn av 20339 » 06 jul 2010 23:09:40

Ankomst New York:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Hanna Sigvardsen Sördal
Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1900
Birth Year: abt 1877
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Lúdvig Södal
Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1900
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Island


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Legg inn av dn20678 » 07 jul 2010 09:55:47

Hei

Denne var ikke helt enkel :) Etter litt søk i Ancestry fant jeg passasjerlisten. Den oppgir at Hanna og Ludvig skal til sin søster Christine SIVERTSEN som bor i Sibley i Iowa. Hun er også oppgitt som den som har betalt biletten til sine søsken.
Hanna og Ludvik bruker her etternavnene Sigvaldsen Sørdal.
Christine kan da være gift Sivertsen.

Prøvde å klippe/lime bilde fra passasjerlisten,men det ble litt for dårlig til å kunne lese.

Har ikke funnet Christine i noen gensus (folketelling)

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Legg inn av 20339 » 07 jul 2010 10:24:17

Ser ut som søsknene forflytter seg til Walseby, Saskatchewan, Canada, mellom 1901 og 1907. Kristine er hjemme på Frøya i 1900/1901 og i 1907. Ved avreise 1907 er Walseby, Canada, reisemålet.
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/we ... n=EMITROND

Det ser ut som Kristine er gift Dagel, et navn som det er mange av i Iowa.

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 07 jul 2010 17:01:36

Kristine married George Dagel and they had a son Stanley Dagel.

# Name: George Morse DAGEL 1
# Sex: M
# Birth: 8 SEP 1880 in Sibley, Osceola County, Iowa 1
# Death: 26 DEC 1914 in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada 1
# Burial: Sibley, Osceola County, Iowa 1
# Reference Number: 805
# Note:

George died of Typhoid Fever. [--Source, Lori Dagel]
= = = = = =
"George Senior passed away at a young age and his body was sent back to Sibley, Iowa to be burried. My Dad was raised by (his mother) Christina Dagel." [--Source, George Dagel]

Marriage 1 (Kristina) Tena SEVERSON b: 6 MAY 1867 in Norway

* Married: 7 JUN 1899 in Nebraska 1

Stanley died of congenital heart failure. --Source, Lori Dagel
= = = = = =
"My own dad was 50 years old when I was born. They had finished their family then ooops I came along and then they decided too have Jim so I wouldn't grow up alone. My dad was in world war 2 in the 77th battery and served in Italy. Upon his return he worked at the Robin Hood mill for several years, then the Civic Center( this is a skating rink), then at Valley View Center as a nurse's aid. He met my mom shortly after returning from the war. It is interesting that grandpa married a woman significantly older and my dad married a woman significantly younger. Both of my sisters are nurses, George is an x-ray technician and Jim is a electronic engineer--oh yah, and I am a social worker with child protection and go to university. Donna's son Drew is in university going for a degree in computer science. Georges oldest daughter Heather is in medical records, Dana his youngest is in Japan teaching, my oldest goes to university undecided major, the other daughter is in high school. Elaine's sons are still in school." [--Source, Lori Dagel]
= = = = = =
"My dad was 50 when I was born, I think a person is never to old for kids. In working with families I find that a person deals with children better in some ways when they are older. From experience I found my mom and dad had more time and were better established. Then my dad retired and had a lot more time to drive me to my 500 activities."

"In regards to the info you requested, the 77th battery was Canadian. He was in artillery. My dad was born in Winnipeg so he was a Canadian citizen. I don't think he had dual citizenship though he probably qualified, and he may not have been aware of this. Tena was in Sibley from what I understand , working as a housekeeper. I believe she came to USA on a working visa. How she met George I have no idea. >From what my mom said, Tena had said that she and George had lived in Sibley for awhile. When, why and how they came to Canada is a mystery. [--Source, Lori Dagel]
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" I have found a document which Christina filled out and dated June 10th 1915. It asks "have you in the past 7 years consulted any person, physician regarding personal ailment?" She checked "Yes, Nov 3, 1913 to Dr. Frank Blagden,Canada -childbirth." My Dad was born Nov. 3, 1912. I don't know if she messed up on the year or what happened. This document also says she has 3 sisters and 3 brothers."
[--Source, Lori Dagel]
= = = = = =
"They called her Christina her name was Tena on her birth certificate. My dad's dad died when he was 2 years old from typhoid fever. Tena was old when my dad was born, there was a rumor (from Aunt Hanna which was Tena's sister) that dad's dad and Tena had arranged for the maid to become pregnant with his child as Tena couldn't have children. This was told to my dad after Tena had passed away and there is no proof either way. We have tried to get records from Winnipeg to verify who the mother was( Tena or the other lady) but have been unsuccessful so far. It may not even be true." [--Source, Lori Dagel]
= = = = = =
"George [son of Stanley Dagel] has some memories of Tena but they are vague as he was quite young and a lot of the stuff she said was in norwegian. I have her christening certificate, its interesting because I have three documents for her with three last names. I dont have them translated but I'm sending them to get translated. One which is a christening certificate says Kristine Hausine, then there is Tena Severson, then there is an estate from Norway from Sigvartsen. Severson and Sigvarson could be the norwegian translation to a more American sounding name . On her citizenship she is severson."
[--Source, Lori Dagel]
= = = = = =
[--Source, an email letter from Harald Storaker to Lori Dagel, dated Feb. 20, 2000]
Subject: Kristine Sigvartsen (1867)

Hi Lori!

I found your grandmother in the Norwegian 1900 online census. She was home
from Iowa, USA, visiting her mother and brother in Frøya, Norway. Frøya is
an island north of Kristiansund, west of Trondheim.

The spelling of the names vary, both for first names and surnames. In rural
Norway by that time they used real patronymics, referring to their father's
first name. But by the coast some people adopted the new habit of using a
family surname, and it looks like your family partly did so.

Sørdal, Frøya, Sør-Trøndelag 1900:

Stina Kristiansdtr (= daughter of Kristian) Sørdal Hm e (widow)
Gaardmandsenke (farmer's widow) S, husgjerning (house-work) born 1843

Hans Henrik Olufsen Sigvardsen (= son of Oluf Sigvardsen) m b S ug
(unmarried)gaardmandsøn (son of farmer), fiskeri (fishing) born 1869

Stina Olufsdtr. Sigvardsen (= daughter of Oluf Sigvardsen) k b D ug
gaardmandsdtr, husgjerning born 1882

Nils Guneriusen m b Tj ug tjenestegut (servant) 1883 T N

Kristine Olufsdtr.(= daughter of Oluf) k mt (temporary stay) Yova. N.
Amerika B (visitor) g Gaardmandskone (farmer's wife) born 1867 T Yova.
N. Amerika

In 1865 Kristine and Oluf was not yet married:

Gurvigdal, Sletten, Hitra, Sør-Trøndelag

Oluf S.(= ?) Sevaldsen (= a family surname = Sigvardsen ?) Gbgr. Selveier
(farmer, self-owner) Fisker (fisherman) ug (unmarried) 26 (b. ca 1839)
Hitterens Prgj.(Hitra Parish) 4 (cows) 3 (sheep) 1/2 2

Stina M. Kristiansdatter (= daughter of Kristian) hans Husbestyrerinde
(his house-keeper) ug (unmarried) 22 (b. 1843) k Hitterens Prgj.

Halvor Sevaldsen hans Fader (his father) Føderaadsmand (pensioner) g 59
(b. ca 1806)m Aamodts Prgj.

Helene Olsdatter (=daughter of Ole/Oluf) hans Kone (his wife) g 66 (b.
ca 1799) k Hitterens Prgj.

Helene is in the 1801 census:

Svellingen, Hitra, Sør-Trøndelag

Ole Pedersen Mand 44 (b. ca 1757) Begge i 1ste ægteskab (Both 1st
marriage) Huusmand med jord (cottager) brevig (? local name of house)

Maren Larsdtr (= daughter of Lars) Hans kone 34 Begge i 1ste ægteskab

Peder Olsen Deres børn (their child) 8 (years) M
Lars Olsen Deres børn 4 M
Anne Olsdtr Deres børn 10 K
Marit Olsdtr Deres børn 6 K
Helena Olsdtr Deres børn 2 (born 1799) K
Maren Maria Deres børn 1

Regards
Harald Storaker
Ringvn 14, 4580 Lyngdal
(south in Norway)
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OBITUARIES
Deaths for Thursday, April 19, 2007

Lori Kaleka - entered into rest on April 6 at 12:02 am in Cancun, Mexico. She was 44. Lori was born to Lillian and Stanley Dagel on August 23rd, 1962 in Moose Jaw. She went to high school at Riverview Collegiate. On August 7th 1982, she married Rob Kaleka. Soon after, the world was graced with Brandi and Brittany Kaleka. In 2000, she achieved her bachelor's degree in Social Work from the University of Regina. To some people she stood tall. To others she was a poet, a hunter, a chocolate connoisseur, a phenomenal bath-maker, a craftswoman supreme and a dancing queen - an absolute goddess. She was dedicated to helping people, especially children. She was loved and will be remembered by many. She is survived by her mother Lillian, her daughters Brandi, Brittany and Stephanie, her brothers George and Jim and her sisters Donna and Elaine - as well as her cat Kermode Bear and her dogs Jasper and d-o-g. Her many loved ones will be holding a celebration of her life on Friday April 20th at the Bob Neil Wildlife Hall (located behind the mall). In lieu of of flowers, donations may be made on behalf of Brandi and Brittany Kaleka at the Moose Jaw branch of Conexus Credit Union.
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Legg inn av dn19818 » 08 jul 2010 02:32:27

Thank`s a lot to Bjørn, Vibeche and Margit. This is much more than I expected and hoped for. First I should tell a little why I`m searching.
My great grandmother was sister of the 3 that emigrated to America. (I`ve became interested when I notised that Kristine was married, wisiting Norway 1900/1901 and find out that there was 2 more children after Oluf and Stina emigrating 1900).
Father Oluf Sigvardt Halvorsen and mother Stina Margrethe Christiansdatter had these children:
1. Kristine Hansine born 5 of June (not 6 of Mai, in Norway we use date and month the opposite way)
2. Hans Henrik born 6 of June 1869 unmarried in 1900, took over and run the farm Sørdal in 1907 after his mother
3. Saras born 5. of Nov. 1871 died 22 . Jan 1883
4. Nikoline Lydia born 1. Jan 1874 d. 25. Jul. 1933 married Ole Olsen Skjærvik 1 Jan.1899. Ole was born 15. Mai 1874. They are my grandparents. They had 7 children incl. my grandmother Signe Gurine Skjærvik, married to Leif Jullumstrø. And they got 6 sons. Johan, Svend, Harald (my father), Roar, Arve and Tormod.
5. Hanna born 25. Jan. 1877
6. Ludvig born 13. Oct. 1879
7. Stina born 22. Mar. 1882 married 17. Apr.1906 to Anton Melkstadvik

I do know a lot about Nikoline Lydia and Ole Olsen Skjærvik`s anchestors and family, but I did not know that I have family from/after my great great grandfather/mother in America. Any dates, places etc. how to connect would be very interesting!!??

What about aunt Hanna and uncle Ludvig (sister and brother of Kristine Tena)?
Is there any records in census to find, wife, husband, children??

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