Karl Johan Tellefsen f.28.12.1878 i Tveit

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Karl Johan Tellefsen f.28.12.1878 i Tveit

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Karl Johan Tellefsen reiste til Amerika fra Kristiansand i 1903. Jeg fant han i Ellis Island under Karljoh. Tellefsen, registrert 6.06.1903. Han er 24 år 6 mnd, ugift.
Jeg har bilder av Karl Johan med hans datter Rosa, men der er ikke årstall eller stedsangivelse. Et annet fotografi skal være av konen hans, der er ingen navn, men det er tatt i Logeman`s Studio 3295 Mission St, San Francisco. Disse bildene er sendt hjem til familien i Norge, jeg vet ikke når.
Jeg skulle gjerne visst mer om hvordan det gikk med Karl Johan, og om der finnes etterslekt. Kan noen hjelpe?
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 14:28:19

Hei Elisabet!
OK...found Martin Tellefson age 39 in the 1910 census in San Francisco, CA.
And living with him are "Charles" Tellefson (brother to Martin), age 31, Charles's wife, Rosie age 28, twin girls age 8, another daughter (can't read name) age 5, and a son (to Charles) Thomas age 3.
Charles is a carpenter in a bank, and he immigrated 1903.
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 15:48:37

Hei igjen!
Hmmm...I am a bit confused about the children listed in the census...all 4 children were born in California, but it says that their mother and father were born in Italy. All children are listed as the nieces and nephew (to Martin).
Rosie (Charles' wife) immigrated from Italy in 1901.
All the girls (I now see) have the last name "Puene" (or a similar spelling) but the boy, Thomas looks to have the last name Tollefson.
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Hei!
May be this is the right person. :D
He had a half-brother (same father) named Martin Tellefsen, born 20.08.1870 in Tveit. I have not searched him, becauce it was Karl`s mother who was my family. Very interesting! I will try to find Martins emigration. But the children? Martins` or Charles`? Still many questons! Thank you! Do you find any more?
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Barna er nok hverken Martin eller Charles sine, selv om Charles er onkel. De er vel i slekt med Charles italienske kone. Tellingene skiller ikke på om nevøer eller nieser er på far eller morssiden.

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 17:12:42

Hanne Line..sorry I did not understand the Norwegian you wrote...(I have some problems with Norwegian grammar!)...
The census says that Rosie is a sister-in-law to the "head of household" which would be Martin. So as I understand the census, she is the wife of Charles.
Do you agree?
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 17:36:47

Patty Dahl skrev:Hanne Line..sorry I did not understand the Norwegian you wrote...(I have some problems with Norwegian grammar!)...
The census says that Rosie is a sister-in-law to the "head of household" which would be Martin. So as I understand the census, she is the wife of Charles.
Do you agree?
The Martin listed in this census immigrated 1891...does that help to figure out which Martin this is??

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 18:04:47

OK...found Charles and family in the 1920 San Francisco census:
Charles TELLESON age 41, wife Rose, the 4 step children (so these are Rose's children, I guess) and then Rose and Charles have a daughter, Esther Telleson age 9.
The step children have the last name "Puccini".
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Fantastic! This must be the right persons. Thank you!
In Voter registrations for California I think I now found Karl Johan different years. Martin (Martin Theodor) in Santa Cruz? May be you have more informations about this family, especial the children? Grandchildren?
I have never heard about step-children, that was new for me.
My grandmother told me about Karl Johan and Rose, we looked on the photos, many years ago.
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 05 sep 2009 18:53:26

Hei Elisabet!
I found Martin T. Tellefson age 49 in the 1920 Santa Cruz, CA census...he is single....says he immigrated 1891, and he is now a farmer!
Glad you liked the other things I found!
Ha det!
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Legg inn av gj06100 » 06 sep 2009 14:41:21

Hei igjen Elisabet!
I wonder if you can find more information (like and obituary??) on Rose "Tellefson" (b. about 1882)...
I looked for the last name Puccini in the SSDI...found several who had San Francisco as their last residence.
There was one listing for a Rose Puccini who was born 1897 and died 1892 in San Francisco...wondering if HER obituary may tell you something about Rose Tellefson...for the 4 step childen with the last name Puccini in the 1920 census.
I am not good at finding those obituaries...but I know that some in this forum are experts at finding obits!
The 1920 census for Charles and Rose Telleson is hard to read, but the twin girls are named something like Louisa and Seconda?? (age 17), then Madeline and Thomas.

Just a few thoughts for the day...
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Hei!
I think I have found something.
California death Index, San Francisco, preview: Karl John Tellefsen d. 1954, Rose Tellefsen d 1951. I cannot see any more. "There is more to see", but how do I find that?
Preview 1910 cencus: Names of the step-children: Louisa, Gunda, Madeline and Thomas. I cannot see the original document. all this with search in Ancestry.com.
Maybe it is our Martin who was a trip in Norway 1928, back to USA march 29., farmer, "amerikansk statsborger".
I am still searching for more information!
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California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Charles John Tellefson
Social Security #: 557054857
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1878
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 26 Aug 1954
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Pederson
Father's Surname: Tellefson

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California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Karl John Tellefson
Social Security #: 557054857
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1878
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 26 Aug 1954
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Pederson
Father's Surname: Tellefson

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1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Carl Tellefson
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
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Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Lose
Race: White

Household Members: Name Age
Carl Tellefson 51
Lose Tellefson 50
Esther Bega 19
Frank Bega 1 11/12
Thomas Puccini 23

Ester er datter f. Cal., Frank er barnebarn f. Cal. av far fra Maine(?) og mor fra Cal. Thomas er stesønn f. Cal. av foreldre fra Italia. Carl er "janitor, office building". Carl gift da han var 30. Esther gift da hun var 16, er nå enke.

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1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Karl Johan Tellefson
[Karl Johan Tellejson]
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 23, San Francisco, California
Age: 41 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1904
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 179

Household Members: Name Age
Karl Johan Tellefson 41

Er er oppført alene, men det står at han er gift. Janitor av yrke.

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1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Charles Tellefson
Age in 1910: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1903

Household Members: Name Age
Martin Tellefson 39
Charles Tellefson 31
Rosie Tellefson 28
Louisa Puccini 8
Gunda Puccini 8
Madeline Puccini 5
Thomas Puccini 3

Puccini barna står oppført som nieser/nevøer av Martin. Men er nok bare Rosies barn ettersom de har både italiensk mor og far. Martin er "laborer, odd jobs" og Charles er "carpenter, bank".

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California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Rose Tellefson
[Rose Fonticelli]
Social Security #: 556051372
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1880
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 17 May 1951
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Pallina
Father's Surname: Fonticelli

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1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Martin T Telefson
Home in 1930: Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, California
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Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White

Household Members: Name Age
Martin T Telefson 60

Imm 1911. Ikke oppført noe yrke. Singel.

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1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Martin T Tellefson
Home in 1920: Sequoia, Santa Cruz, California
Age: 49 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1891
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 630

Household Members: Name Age
Martin T Tellefson 49

Har en poultry farm (kylling/høns).

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Dette var kjempeflott dokumentasjon. Tusen takk!
Da gjenstår å lete etter Esther Bega født ca 1911, og hennes sønn Frank Bega som må være født omkring 1928.
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