Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

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Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 18 apr 2014 19:53:41

Hej
Carl August Kirkerud är son till Anders Andersen Kirkerud och Helle Nilsdatter. Carl utvandrar enligt uppgift från Kristiansand till Michigan 14 april 1888 jag hoppas få hjälp att återfinna honom i USA

Det finns två uppgifter om Carls födelse 1869 "Sveio Hordaland" alternativt "Storöens Prestgjeld"

Carl och hela familjen finns i Hetland 1875
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 2248000397

Carl återfinns i Kristiansand i Folketellingen 1885
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 3284014474

Han utvandrar 14 april 1888 från Kristiansand
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ge ... 0000270483

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 18 apr 2014 20:24:58

Carl August Kirkerud f.???? Month Date and Year? Where was he born?

A couple of possible men? Both came to America in 1888. Karl/Carl was often changed to Charles.

Charles Anderson Township 1, San Mateo, California Jul 1869 Norway Boarder
Charles Anderson J Elizabeth Savannah, Chatham, Georgia Mar 1869 Norway Head
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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av 6146 » 18 apr 2014 20:26:05

Her har du dåpen til Karl August Kirkerud i Sveio (nr 10)

Kjeldeinformasjon: Hordaland fylke, Valestrand i Sveio, Ministerialbok nr. C 1 (1862-1880), Fødde og døypte 1869, side 18.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-19
Permanent biletlenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 640189.jpg

(Storøen er ellers det samme som Stord hvis du skulle lure på det)

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 18 apr 2014 21:44:59

Hi
Thanks for help with link to Carl August birth 29th of May 1869 at Valestrand in Sveio, Hordaland, Norway
I have now also found out that Carl August had relatives that emigrated two years before (=1886). Sören Hanssön Egeland born January 1820 Helleland Rogaland , wife Birgitte Johansdatter born 1820 in Eigersund Rogaland and their daughter Alette Sörensen Egeland born 2nd December 1858 Eigersund Rogaland. Not sure where in US they ended up
Their other son Hans Sörensen Egeland born 2nd December 1858 (twin to Alette) in Eigersund Rogaland Norway emigrated already 1881 and married Olina Nelson in Polk County Minnesota USA 1897 - Hans died 1944.
So it might possibly be that Carl August joined his relatives in Minesota?
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Polk County is just north of me.


1900 United States Federal Census about Hans S Egeland
Name: Hans S Egeland
[Hanna Egeland]
Age: 41
Birth Date: Dec 1858
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Sletten, Polk, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Olena Egeland
Marriage Year: 1889
Years Married: 11
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Hans S Egeland 41
Olena Egeland 22
Anna Egeland 2
Belle Egeland 1
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Søren Hansson Egeland
Birth 27 Jan 1820 in Helleland, Rogaland, Norway
Death 21 Oct 1900 in sletton township, polk co. MN
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Last Name First Name Date of Birth Date of Death Cemetery ID Cemetery Section Notes
EGELAND BERGITA JOHNSDATTER 14/AUG/1820 04/JUN/1892 1131 SN 29 BETHEL LUTHERAN
EGELAND OLINA 1878 1957 1131 SN 29 BETHEL LUTHERAN SP. HANS.
EGELAND HANS 1858 1944 1131 SN 29 BETHEL LUTHERAN SP. OLINA
EGELAND SAMUEL 1901 1925 1131 SN 29 BETHEL LUTHERAN WITH HANS & OLINA

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 19 apr 2014 10:05:10

Thanks for sharing information on what happened with the Egeland familly in Polk County MN, that filled another gap in my familly tree.
Hopefully someone also have info on the original question about where Carl August Kirkerud ended up in US after emigrating from Norway 14th April 1888
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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 20 sep 2014 16:55:52

Hej
Jag har hittat ytterligare lite information i denna fråga.
När Carl August Kirkerud (född 29 maj 1869 i Sveio Hordaland) mamma Helle Nilsdatter avlider den 25 maj 1913 omnämns Carl August i dödsfallsprotokollet som Carl Andersen boende i Amerika http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/35333/63/
Efter utvandringen från Kristiansand 14 april 1888 till Michigan är han således fortfarande i livet och bosatt i USA år 1913.
Möjligen är någon av de två som nämns i ett tidigare svar ovan rätt person, men i så fall stämmer inte födelsemånaden.
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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj06100 » 20 sep 2014 17:42:23

Hei!
I am not sure I understood everything...but this man was called "Carl Andersen/son" when his mother died in 1913. Is that correct?

I find one Carl Anderson age 32 in the 1900 census, Marquette county, Tilden, Michigan (MI).
But his birth is given as December 1868....(I understand your Carl was born May 1869)...
This Carl immigrated 1888 from Norway..he is married to Pauline, age 29 (b. in Norway) and they have 2 children, both born in MI.

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 21 sep 2014 07:57:58

Hej
Yes your asumption is correct about his name when his mother died.
One of the problems is that Carl Andersen/-son probably is a common name, and who knows - he might have decided to not go to Michigan after all.
Might be that the only chance of finding the "right one" is to find records of his death in US including the exact birth date - but thats a "long shot"
I have also tried to find info on his entry to US in April/May 1888 to see if he used another name/spelling there, or if he travelled together with someone with a more unusual name but so far I have not been able to locate that record.
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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj17048 » 21 sep 2014 10:46:24

Ole skrev:I have also tried to find info on his entry to US in April/May 1888 to see if he used another name/spelling there, or if he travelled together with someone with a more unusual name but so far I have not been able to locate that record.


Hei!


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Carl Kerkerud
Name: Carl Kerkerud
Arrival Date: 14 May 1888
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Zaandam

Nr 4 på listen. Men; det kan se ut til at han var sjømann, mer enn at han emigrerte, for det ser ut som en mannskapsliste, mer enn en "vanlig" passasjerliste.

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj06100 » 21 sep 2014 14:19:44

Hei Ole!
Is it possible that in the death record of his mother he was called "Anderson"...but does that
mean he used this name in America?..perhaps his name was just recorded that way when his mother died????

Sometimes the "long shots" do lead somewhere...
So here is one...
I know this is not your Carl...but is this person a relation?
Merton/Martin Kirkerud, age 46 in 1940 census Hennepin county, Minnesota, born in Norway..married to Helen age 30 (b. MN)...
He is listed as a son-in-law to the head of household (but I can't read her name)...Anna "something"...
I see that the Egeland family lived in MN...so i was just wondering about this person "Martin/Merton"...

Is Kirkerud/Kerkerud a common name???
Of course Anderson IS a common name!

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Re: Carl August Kirkerud utvandring 14 april 1888

Legg inn av gj12576 » 21 sep 2014 15:00:33

Hej
His full name was Carl August Andersen Kirkerud (Andersen is from his father Anders Andersen Kirkerud).Kirkerud is not an uncommon name in Norway and there are several different famillies with the same name that are not related. Kirkerud is an open place close to a church and people who lived on such a place often took the name Kirkerud - a way of saying that you are the Carl Andersen from Kirkerud not any "unspecific" Carl. Thanks for sugestion on Martin Kirkerud but he is most probably not relatet to my ancestor. Martin was born 17 december 1893 in another part of Norway.
In Bentes posting above when Carl August came to US 14th May 1888 we can see that he actually used the name Kerkerud (Kirkerud? difficult to see). I have noticed that there also are a number of Kerkeruds that has lived in US - but I have found no clear links t my relative

I have also found aditional information on his ocupation - in Norway he worked as "fyrböder" - in English it was a man who put in coal in a ships engine. So Bentes assumption might be right - perhaps "he sailed on the seas" at this time and settled down in US later
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