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Knut Antonsen ( Knut A. Knutson)

Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 24 nov 2013 18:51:32

Nå trenger jeg litt hjelp igjen...min Bestemor Tora Antonsdatter f. 2 april 1898 ( Stormoen) hadde 3 søsken som emigrerte til Amerika.

Knut Antonsen f. 19.8 1879 i Åmot emigrerte til Amerika i 1901. Han skiftet også etter hvert navn til Knut A. Knutsen ( Knutson)( Stormoen). Om han stiftet familie er uklart siden han er registrert i 1920 dokumenter som ugift, 40 år og i husholdet fantes en annen mann Ole Elsaas oggså 40 år. I 1930 registeret er han fremdeles enslig og bor i Lenora, Griggs, North Dakota.

Han søstre Kari Antonsdatter ( Stormoen) f. 14.1 1882 emigrerte i 1091. Her kommer den første etterlysningen. Vi vet via kilder at hun giftet seg med Gustav Haagensen i Amerika i 1901 og det kan tyde på at de flyttet etter hvert til Canada 1916. I familieregistert i Canada for 1920 er Gustav Hogenson gift med Rose. MEN ryktene i familien sier at Kari kom tilbake til Norge...men jeg klarer ikke å finne dokumentasjon på det. Kanskje finnes det noen ekteskapslister el. som jeg ikke klarer å finne. Nå har jeg via Margit ( tusen takk) funnet ut at de reiste til Canada. Men hva som skjedde med de vet jeg ikke...


Hennes søster Berte Antonsdatter ( Stormoen) født 17.12 1883 emigrerte i 1903 og giftet seg i Amerika med Ole Olafsen Løkken. Hun kom tilbake med sin mann til Norge og bosatte seg i Åmot.
Men jeg vet ingenting om hennes "amerikanske" historie, hvor hun dro, hvor lenge hun var det, hvor de giftet seg, om det er noen gjenværende barn i USA... etc...

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 24 nov 2013 19:57:31

Berte/Bertha is going to visit her brother in law Gustav Hagenson/Hogenson when she comes to the USA in 1904. She is #22

Hearsay or stories from families are usually just that. Genealogy is based on facts. :wink:
If you think Kari came back to Norway, you should start checking all the Church books where she would have moved to for her "coming into"/innflytning or her death record.
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 24 nov 2013 19:58:50

From ØSTERDØLENES SAGA

Knut Antonsen Stormoen ………………………………………… 1879 emigrated in 1900

Kari Antonsdatter Stormoen ……………………………………… 1882 emigrated in 1901

Berte Antonsdatter Stormoen ……………………………………. 1883 emigrated in 1904
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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 24 nov 2013 20:23:47

Thank you Margit...and for all the help you have given. You found that Kari went to Canada, With her husband Gustav Hoganson ( Haagensen) and the two children. Later in the Records Gustav was married to Rose, so what happend to Kari? Did she leave him? Did she die? Maybe there is the ruhmours about that she came back to Norway.....

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 24 nov 2013 20:33:13

You would have to find someone who lives in Canada and knows the record system up there. It is totally different than here in the states. I checked the Bios and did not find them. You can check here if you wish.
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-5468D3D/gbsearch
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac- ... nguage=eng
scroll down on page
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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 24 nov 2013 20:59:12

She did not come back to Norway.

Hillcrest Cemetery
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HAAGANSON Gustave 1874 - 19 Nov 1946
HAAGENSON Kari 1882 - 13 Apr 1973
HAAGENSON Nels 1901 - 29 Aug 1959 Nels was killed in a car accident.
HAAGENSON Albert Henry 1903 - 8 Aug 1982
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Saskatchewan, Canada, Residents Index (SRI), 1800-2012 about Karie Haagenson
Name: Karie Haagenson
Residence Date: 1965
Residence Place: Weyburn, Saskatchewan, Canada
Description: resided

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Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Nels Haagenson
Name: Nels Haagenson
Location: Weyburn, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Labourer
Electoral District: Weyburn
Year: 1945

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Nels Haagenson
Name: Nels Haagenson
Location: Moose Mountain, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Laborer
Electoral District: Moose Mountain
Year: 1949

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Nels Haagenson
Name: Nels Haagenson
Location: Moose Mountain, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Labourer
Electoral District: Moose Mountain
Year: 1953

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Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Albert Haagenson
Name: Albert Haagenson
Location: Weyburn, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Labourer
Electoral District: Weyburn
Year: 1945

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Albert Haagenson
Name: Albert Haagenson
Location: Moose Mountain, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Laborer
Electoral District: Moose Mountain
Year: 1949

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Albert Haagenson
Name: Albert Haagenson
Location: Moose Mountain, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Labourer
Electoral District: Moose Mountain
Year: 1953

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 about Albert Haagenson
Name: Albert Haagenson
Location: Assiniboia, Saskatchewan
Occupation: Labourer
Electoral District: Assiniboia
Year: 1962

Saskatchewan, Canada, Residents Index (SRI), 1800-2012 about Albert Haagenson
Name: Albert Haagenson
Residence Date: 1965
Residence Place: Weyburn, Saskatchewan, Canada
Description: resided

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Legg inn av 23508 » 26 nov 2013 13:49:17

Er dette de rette folka? Her er Berte født 17.september og ikke i desember. Er derfor jeg spør ;)

http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3291586

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 26 nov 2013 14:30:05

I have been helping Trond for a long time with this family off these message boards. He has the marriage information from Wisconsin and the information that Kari's sister Bertha was coming to Wisconsin to her brother-in-laws home and his name was Gustave/Gust/etc Haagenson/Hogenson/Hagenson. If you get hung up on dates or name spelling you will never find anything when it comes to genealogy. I have spent many many hours on this family. If you would like to start over from the beginning, please do. :wink:
Since I find nothing about a Berte/Berta/Bertha in America or Norway who is married to an Ole Lokken, perhaps she is the person who went back to Norway???

Gunhild-Juliane skrev:Er dette de rette folka? Her er Berte født 17.september og ikke i desember. Er derfor jeg spør ;)

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Legg inn av 23508 » 26 nov 2013 15:14:42

Margit - er helt enig, datoer, fødselsår og navn endres veldig i kilder, så man kan aldri være sikker. Alt bør sjekkes ut. Når jeg søker forsøker jeg alle mulige variasjoner av navn.

Jeg skulle ønske at alle opplysningene man har, kommer tydeligere frem - og det gjelder ikke bare dette innlegget. Det står at Bertha giftet seg med Ole i Amerika, men ikke hvor, men nå vet jeg at de giftet seg i Wisconsin siden du skrev det ;)

Så ingen av dere vet når de kom til Norge?
De kom tydeligvis til Åmot? Er det kilder på det?

Og Margit, du er en av de beste som jeg vet om til å leite i kilder, så at jeg finner noe du ikke har funnet er vel lite sannsynlig. Men man vet aldri ;)

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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 27 nov 2013 11:50:41

Hi Margaret
First I follow Your advice, do one person at the time so I decides to follow up Kari Antonsdatter (Stormoen) and I have been to all Places in Canada, asking around in different villages that might be helpfull. Margit, I am so thankfull for all Your help that seems to give results...I contacted the clerk in Weyburn in Canada that seemd to be the last stop for Kari and the Family. The clerk( she ) adviced me to a lady that was doing genealogic searches and Guess what...she was a friend With Haagensons and there is relatives. I have send all the information I got from before and all you found to the Family to check that it is as correct as it can be...but I continue my story and Wonder, what happend to Knut A Knutsen, her Brother...in America.

Gunhild thank you so much for the help. Takk for hjelpen og jeg fortsetter letingen etter hva som skjedde. Berte var født i september og ikke desember. Sjekket det i klokkerboken for Åmot. Og jeg er takknemmelig for all hjelp...fortsatt

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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 27 nov 2013 21:48:40

Margit
I have found some more about Berte, they moved back to Norway probably around 1907. They build up a Place called Furuset. They got 7 children. So we can end the American story about her.
Thank you for all the help, I am so greatful to you.

Now there is for the time beeing only one missing link and that is the Brother Knut A.Knutsen
and what happend to him?

Thank you so much

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Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 27 nov 2013 21:57:02

Hei Trond!
I will do some checking, why don't you put online what we know about him. WWI record and census.
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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 28 nov 2013 10:03:08

Hi Margit
Here is what we know about Knut A Knutsen (Knutson) born 19. 08 1879.
He was going to his uncle John Knutsen in Cooperstown ND. He changed his name after he came to America


ØSTERDØLENES SAGA


Knut Antonsen Stormoen ………………………………………… 1879 emigrated in 1900

Kari Antonsdatter Stormoen ……………………………………… 1882 emigrated in 1901

Berte Antonsdatter Stormoen ……………………………………. 1883 emigrated in 1904

He came With the boat Ultonia from Liverpool the boat left 26 february 1901 due to the immigration record.

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U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Knute Anton Knutson
County: Nelson
State: North Dakota
Birth Date: 19 Aug 1879
Race: White

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1920 United States Federal Census about Knute A Knutson
Name: Knute A Knutson
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Osago, Nelson, North Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1901
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Knute A Knutson 40
Ole Elsaas 40

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This could be Knut in 1930.
1930 United States Federal Census about Knut Knutson
Name: Knut Knutson
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lenora, Griggs, North Dakota
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Single
Immigration Year: 1899
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Tom J Huso 47
Cora J Huso 35
John E Huso 5
Knut Knutson 51
Lewis Westberg 45
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Then I have found these two links and Wonder how it could be possible to find the right one:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 39&df=all&

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 58&df=all&

Thats all we know so far

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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 07 mar 2019 16:52:03

Hi all. I have not been into the page for a long time, that does not mean that I have not been working. From a relative I have got new information about Knut . Some "amerika" letters. One of the letters is very interesting since it mention that he has a wife fro Trysil and that she was two years old when she came to America. The letter is dated 2nd of March 1947 and they lived in Erskine, Minnesota.
He does not mention the name of his wife or if he had any children.
The secon letter dated 19 th of december 1948 he has moved to Winger, Minnesota he does not mention his wife, maybe she had passed away.
Now it would be nice if it is possible to find out anything about the wife of Knut.

Thank you so much for all your help, much appreciated

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 07 mar 2019 18:41:45

Hei!
Based on what you just provided...
This may be Knut...in Minnesota ww2 draft
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKCC-WNG4

1940 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSKZ-ZNY


mvh
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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 08 mar 2019 10:26:40

Hi Patty... wow this seems to be correct. Thank you so much. If I write to the authorieties of Erskine, maybe they have some more information. It would be nice to try to find obituarities, the wifes birth name and so on... at least we know that he was married

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 08 mar 2019 14:32:19

Hei Trond Einar
Glad to help!
Knute died 1958
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/579 ... -a-knutson
(I just looked at your older post...you already had this link)
Looks like his wife remarried, after Knute died.

Knute married Marie Lutnes in Polk county, MN in 1926
https://www.moms.mn.gov/Search?S=1

Here is the family tree for Marie Lutnes (b. 1889 Norway ), which indicates that her father Alund was born in Trysil.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/M988-1L8

1900 Polk county census for Marie Lutnes with parents and siblings
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93Z-SC1

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/579 ... und-lutnes


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Legg inn av Astrid Mollan » 08 mar 2019 18:20:40

SAH, Trysil prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 4 /1, 1842-1850, s. 38-39
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070207670025

Nr. 55
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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 09 mar 2019 14:21:57

Dear Patty. Thank you so much for the help. I am wondering if there is any children after Knute an Marie? Still a lot to find out of, what did he do for a living?

Do you know anything about copy rights to the photos from the graveyard?
It would have been so nice to add it to a page I am doing on the internet. When the site is finished it will be for the faamily with password.

Once again thank you

Astrid. Tusen takk for hjelp, det er en spennende historie med Knut og nå Marie

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Legg inn av gj06100 » 09 mar 2019 20:43:46

Hei Trond Einar
You are welcome.
re: Knut's profession...all I know is it lists "farmer" (when you view the document) with the census record in familysearch.
Did you see that?

I have no idea about copyright laws and findagrave photos.

I did not see any children listed in the 1930 and 1940 censuses for Knut and Marie.

mvh
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Legg inn av Trond Einar Solberg Indsetviken » 10 mar 2019 13:03:07

Thank you Patty for the help

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Legg inn av Astrid Mollan » 10 mar 2019 20:14:36

Det står vel ingenting om kopirettigheter på find a grave? Jeg har forstått det slik at det er frivillige som legger ut bilder og skrift. Det må være 100 tusener over hele verden som har kopier bilder og tekst og lagt dem inn i internettsider med og uten passord.
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