Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

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Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 20 mar 2013 21:58:19

Søker informasjon om :
Erik Severinsen Melleby. Far: Aksel Severinsen Melby, Mor: Hanna Josefine Hansen
F: 21.03.1908, Borge Østfold
døpt: 26.07.1908 i Hvaler Kirke, Østfold.

Informasjon som jeg har fått av sletkninger:
- Han skal ha vært gift 2 ganger.
1. gang - "Solveig fra Tønsberg"
2. gang - "Mabel i USA"

Han skal ha "seilt som sjømann under krigen" og da etter krigen "blitt igjen i USA"

Som dere forstår er ikke dette mye informasjon. Men kan noen hjelpe likevel?
Erik skal ha hatt 5 helsøsken og en halvbror.
Alle bortsett fra broren Herman Andreas F: 19.03.1905, Skjeberg, døpt: 09.04.1905 i Borge, er det gjort "rede for" og disse ble igjen i Norge.

Herman Andreas skal i følge "familielegenden" ha "Omkommet til sjøs".

Kan noen hjelpe til tross for få og sketchy opplysninger?

På forhånd takk.

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 20 mar 2013 22:08:46

What is your source that he married two times? Have you found him leaving Norway?? If so, where from and when?
This family?????

Information on domicile
Previous domicile Next domicile
Data on domicile:

Census year: 1910
Municipality: Hvaler
Municipality number: 0111
Name of domicile: Løkka

Number of persons in this domicile: 7
Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Aksel Melleby hf g fisker 15.04.1879 Berg
Hanna Melleby hm g 07.09.1881 Borge Sml.

Severin Melleby s ug 16.11.1904 t
Karen Melleby d ug 03.04.1906 t
Karl Melleby s ug 20.10.1907 t
Alma Melleby d ug 06.10.1909 t
Ragna Hans. fl ug delt. i husgjerningen 09.03.1896 Borge Sml.
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The Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Tromsø N-9037 Tromsø, NORWAY
Updated: November 10th 2004
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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av dn19075 » 20 mar 2013 22:32:27

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954
about Erik Melleby

Name: Erik Melleby
Arrival Date: 1 May 1946
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Cavina
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Country: United States
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1908
Birth Country: Norway
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 6
Du har ikke de nødvendige tillatelsene for å vise filene som er tilknyttet dette innlegget.

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av Margit Bakke » 20 mar 2013 22:39:00

Name Arrival Date Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name View Ship Image View Passenger List
Erik Malley Melleby 25 Jul 1948 abt 1907 Curacao,USA Norwegian
Erik Melleby 26 Apr 1941 abt 1908 Leith, Scotland Norwegian Belita
Erik Melleby 23 Feb 1942 abt 1908 Liverpool, England Norwegian Belgium
Erik Melleby 28 Apr 1946 abt 1908 Panama, Canal Zone Norwegian Svithiod
Erik Melleby 26 Apr 1941 abt 1908 Leith, Scotland Scandinavian Belita
Erik Melleby 2 Nov 1942 abt 1908 Caripito, Venezuela and Montevideo, Uruguay and Aruba and Port of Spain, Trinidad Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 7 Mar 1943 abt 1908 Trinidad, Cuba Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 20 Mar 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 27 Apr 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 12 Jun 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 23 Aug 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 24 Sep 1943 abt 1908 Cartagena,rep,co Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 16 Jan 1942 abt 1909 San Nicolas, Aruba and Caripito and Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela and Campana, Argentina Scandinavian Ben Brush
Erik Melleby 13 Feb 1947 abt 1917 Panama, Canal Zone Norwegian Svithiod
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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av dn19075 » 20 mar 2013 23:03:20

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Social Security Death Index
about Mabel Melleby

Name: Mabel Melleby
SSN: 052-09-0534
Last Residence: 10306 Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States of America
Born: 17 Nov 1905
Died: May 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 23 mar 2013 19:57:53

Hello Margit,

As I mentioned in my first posting - The information I listed I have from realtives. These live in Norway - and have no further information.
So that is my source. I mentioned that I was aware that the source was very schetcy also. And I appoligized for this in my original posting.

If I had found him leaving Norway - I would have included a link to my source. So, no, I have not found him leaving Norway.

The census you are refering to is supposed to be his family, but since this source does not list the correct names of his sisters and brothers (and not even Erik himself) I chose not to include it here - since I thought this might be misleading.

I appologize if I have offended you in any way, that was certainly not my intention.
I did not post this to offend anyone.

But as I see that you have a very strong reaction to my posting, I really do applogize.

Margit skrev:What is your source that he married two times? Have you found him leaving Norway?? If so, where from and when?
This family?????

Information on domicile
Previous domicile Next domicile
Data on domicile:

Census year: 1910
Municipality: Hvaler
Municipality number: 0111
Name of domicile: Løkka

Number of persons in this domicile: 7
Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Aksel Melleby hf g fisker 15.04.1879 Berg
Hanna Melleby hm g 07.09.1881 Borge Sml.

Severin Melleby s ug 16.11.1904 t
Karen Melleby d ug 03.04.1906 t
Karl Melleby s ug 20.10.1907 t
Alma Melleby d ug 06.10.1909 t
Ragna Hans. fl ug delt. i husgjerningen 09.03.1896 Borge Sml.
Norwegian Historical Data Centre (NHDC)
The Faculty of Social Sciences, University of Tromsø N-9037 Tromsø, NORWAY
Updated: November 10th 2004

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 23 mar 2013 20:03:22

Hello Hanne,

I think you might have found the Erik I am looking for. I saw in the enclosed picture that the date of birth was the same as I have found for "my" Erik.

I am not able to interpet the handwritten text - are you able to?

What kind of manifest is this?
You state: "Border Crossings" - but does it only mean that he is crossing the border - or has it any other meaning?

Thank you for your help!

Best regards!
Hanne skrev:Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954
about Erik Melleby

Name: Erik Melleby
Arrival Date: 1 May 1946
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Cavina
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Country: United States
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1908
Birth Country: Norway
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 6

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 23 mar 2013 20:05:31

Hello Margit,
Thank you for the list.

Best regards.
Margit skrev:Name Arrival Date Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name View Ship Image View Passenger List
Erik Malley Melleby 25 Jul 1948 abt 1907 Curacao,USA Norwegian
Erik Melleby 26 Apr 1941 abt 1908 Leith, Scotland Norwegian Belita
Erik Melleby 23 Feb 1942 abt 1908 Liverpool, England Norwegian Belgium
Erik Melleby 28 Apr 1946 abt 1908 Panama, Canal Zone Norwegian Svithiod
Erik Melleby 26 Apr 1941 abt 1908 Leith, Scotland Scandinavian Belita
Erik Melleby 2 Nov 1942 abt 1908 Caripito, Venezuela and Montevideo, Uruguay and Aruba and Port of Spain, Trinidad Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 7 Mar 1943 abt 1908 Trinidad, Cuba Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 20 Mar 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 27 Apr 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 12 Jun 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 23 Aug 1943 abt 1908 Halifax, Nova Scotia Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 24 Sep 1943 abt 1908 Cartagena,rep,co Scandinavian Esso Belgium
Erik Melleby 16 Jan 1942 abt 1909 San Nicolas, Aruba and Caripito and Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela and Campana, Argentina Scandinavian Ben Brush
Erik Melleby 13 Feb 1947 abt 1917 Panama, Canal Zone Norwegian Svithiod
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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 23 mar 2013 20:07:49

Hello Hanne,

This might be a "contender" to the "Mabel" I am looking for.

But I am aware that it is a "needle in a haystack"-quest looking for Erik and his family.

But it might be. I will save this information for later.
Thank you so much!

Best regards!
Hanne skrev::?: :?: :?:

Social Security Death Index
about Mabel Melleby

Name: Mabel Melleby
SSN: 052-09-0534
Last Residence: 10306 Staten Island, Richmond, New York, United States of America
Born: 17 Nov 1905
Died: May 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av dn27264 » 23 mar 2013 21:20:19

Hi Torunn,

The record that Hanne found is Erik crossing the Canadian-American border. Erik left Liverpool, England on April 18th on the SS Cavina, which then sailed to Canada, landing at the Port of Montréal on May 1st. Seeing as Erik was a resident of the United States and not Canada, he obviously had to cross the Canadian-American border to get to his home in New York. When he crossed the border into the United States from Canada and went through American customs it was recorded. It looks if the group of people on the list were only allowed to enter the United States on something the American Department of Labor called a 'Group Transit Certificate', which was issued at the American Consulate in Montréal. Once the Group Transit Certificate was issued, everyone on the list was allowed to enter the United States, but could stay in the United States for only 60 days.

Basically, everyone on the list was residing in New York before they left the United States. They must have sailed to Europe, but on the return voyage, rather than sailing directly back to the United States, they ended up sailing to Montréal in Canada. They still had to get to the United States, so they crossed the border into the United States somewhere (I'm assuming) south of Montréal. Maybe at the American customs office in St Albans in Vermont, but I can't say for sure.

The above is likely the case with this particular record.

Erik

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 23 mar 2013 23:21:57

Hello Erik,

Thank you for the explanation!

So Erik resided in New York. This of course makes the Mabel Hanne found a more likely candidate for Erik's second wife.


This is very interesting and I hope that I will be able to clarify this. Mabye an obituary for Mabel should "do the trick".
Anyway - thanks for all the help!

Best regards,

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av dn27264 » 24 mar 2013 16:19:14

My pleasure Torunn, hope it helps.

Erik

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 25 mar 2013 15:03:17

I have just gotten a note that says that Erik lived at:
727-56,street,Brooklyn New York

on Noember 11th 1948.

I belive I hae tried to find erik in the 1940 census on ancestry - but are not able to narrow him down.

But of course - this is 8 years later than the census, so he could have moved in the meantime of course.

Since I now have an adress at a spesific moment. What kind of information should I use further to find out more about Erik's life in the US?

Are there for example adressbooks online for New York in this period?

Thanks for all help!

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Re: Erik Severinsen - Hvor endte han opp?

Legg inn av gj14876 » 16 feb 2014 16:51:29

Trying to pick this up again.
I am looking for:
- Where did Erik die?
- What were the names of his wives?
- Did he ever have any children?

Hope someone can help me . I will say "Thank you" in advance for your contribution.

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