Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Kittil

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Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Kittil

Legg inn av gj06956 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 10.56

Hej

I am looking for Abraham Vanhakartano who born in Alatornio at 1816. His wife can be Anna Greta Andersdatter from Krampenes. Abraham came with his family to Finnmark at 1832 from Kittilä. Abraham's stepfather was Carl Gustav Arpela/Vanhakartano and mother was Brita Abrahamsdotter Gedda. Abraham's really father was Simon Tuisku. Abraham was good in reading and writing.

Does anyone have any clue of him. Where he lived in Finnmark; Neiden or...., has he children, when he died.

Thanks of any your help what you can give.


Teija :D

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av dn22196 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 13.53

Hello first I found one whit the same name, born january the 1 in 1816.And parents was Abraham Vanhakartano
and Caisa Nilsdatter.
Is it the same Abraham?Or did someone else have exactly the same name...But this one was born Alatornio Lappi in Finland.And thats what you whrite to.So maybe it is the one you looking for? 8)

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av dn22196 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 14.03

I havent been able to find them in the count for Finnmark 1865 so then I will search in the churchbooks.So we have to wait and see if something suddenly :pop: up :lol:

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av dn22196 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 14.19

Hello I have search many things now.But I couldnt find anyone of the names you have.Are you shore that they didnt get another name when they came to Norway?

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av Erling Hoel » 6. mai 2008 kl. 14.34

Hello

There might be a change for finding something if you search for them in the following link:

http://www.troms-slekt.com/kven/index.html

I also have lost my great grandmother from Finland, Anna Greta Rytilahti who disappear from all census and chursh books after 1871

Good luck

Erling

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av gj06956 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 14.53

Lisbeth and Erling, thanks a lot for you.

Mine Abraham was born 30.9.1816 In Alatornio, Arpela.

In this website:

http://www.niskavara.com/Reunion%20file ... etavle.PDF

was this text:

Ekteskap: 25 okt 1868 Kaisa Greta Abrahamsdatter Arbela (f. 15 feb 1849, d. cirka 1915), datter av Abraham Karlsen Arbela og
Anna Greta Andersdatter; Krampenes.

If he isn't in the churchbook, maybe he moved somewhere or did he died after 1865.

Thanks

teija :lol:

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av gj06956 » 6. mai 2008 kl. 15.06

Lisbeth , are you sure about this:

first I found one whit the same name, born january the 1 in 1816. And parents was Abraham Vanhakartano
and Caisa Nilsdatter.

I haven't found yet anybody who can match with them.

Teija :D

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av gj07903 » 29. oktober 2008 kl. 23.20

Kirkonkirjassa Vadsøssa, Landsoknet 1854-1880: Marriages vuoda 1868. It states that Caisa Greta Abrahamsdtr. was born in Neiden 1849, ja isän nimi oli Abraham Carlsen.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050303020490.jpg&siz=gigant

Neiden is in Sør-Varanger kunta, and Krampenes under Vadsø - but in 1849, when Caisa Greta was born, all of Sør-Varangers births, deaths, weddings were listed under Vadsø.
Kirkonkirjassa "Bysoknet, Landsoknet i Vadsø 1843-1853, p. 36-37" you'll find Caisa Gretas christening - no. 43 Äiti Anna Greta Andersdtr. Abraham Carlsen ja Anna Greta lived in Neiden at the time.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070612610577.jpg&siz=gigant

If you give us some more information, link to rippikirjat, muuttokirjat, did the entire family leave Finland? etc. it may make it easier to help you. :wink:

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Re: Abraham Arbela/Arpela/Vanhakartano från Alatornio och Ki

Legg inn av gj07903 » 29. oktober 2008 kl. 23.44

Had to check one last thing! Check this out:
http://home.no.net/~tballo/north_v_1854 ... arried.htm

Marriage 16.08.1868 - between Brita Maria ASPELA (neiden) ja Hans Piippola (muonioniska) - her father Abraham Carlsen ASPELA lives in Russia. I'm not saying his our man - but he might be. :D

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