Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

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Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av gj05515 » 16. februar 2014 kl. 13.59

Hello,

I am looking for the birth record for Laura Larsdatter, daughter of Lars Pedersen and Lisa Jonasdatter.

Here is the confirmation for Laura:

Confirmation #84
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Halden, Ministerialbok nr. I 9 (1866-1877), Konfirmerte 1875, side 471.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-421

Here is Laura with her mother and half-sister in 1865:

1865 Census
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCen ... =8889#ovre

The confirmation record says Laura was born 28 Jun 1860 in Skjeberg.
The 1865 census for Halden says she was born in Fredrikshald.
Her death record in Utah, USA, says she was born 29 May 1860 in Ingedal.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F85Z-9L2

The way I understand it, Ingedal was part of Skjeberg, so I don't know why I can not find a birth record there. Maybe someone can help me.

She left Norway for Utah in 1886. I only need her birth/baptism record.

Mvh,

Brian

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 14.36

Yes, you are right. Ingedal is an annex parish to Skjeberg parish.
I should think that the information on her confirmation that she was born in Skjeberg is more reliable than the 1865 census. I was not able to find her in Skjeberg either. - Tove DJ

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av gj05515 » 16. februar 2014 kl. 14.53

Thank you for your answer Tove. I think that maybe Lisa Jonasdatter left Skjeberg for Fredrikshald before Laura was baptized. The confirmation record does Show a baptism date, but I can not find it anywhere.

Brian

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 15.01

Can find on the 1875 census for Fredrikshald (Halden) Lisa Jonassen born 1833 Laxa[r]by, Sweden. This must be the mother. But she is not living together with Laura and her half-sister
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en ... 2004003214

Lisa and Laura on the 1885 census for Fredrikshald (Halden)
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en ... 3249010485

Laura "ernærer sig ved søm" - she is making a living from doing needle-work, Lisa is making a living from washing

Laxarby parish is in Dalsland landscape, the area of Bengtsfors.

I should think that the date for the baptism 22 July 1860 is correct. That was on a Sunday.
But where was she baptised - that is the problem. I have checked Halden (Fredrikshald) and could not find her there. Also I checked Berg parish (outside Halden).

If we are not able to find any recording of the baptism, I would say that you should use the confirmation record as the most reliable source.

Tove DJ

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av gj05515 » 16. februar 2014 kl. 15.18

Thank you for the FT records.

I think this is Lausa leaving for America. She married in Utah in 1886.

#21
Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Halden, Ministerialbok nr. I 12 (1878-1889), Utflyttede 1886, side 257.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-141



http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... 91693#ovre

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 15.55

Yes Laura Marie must be the right person. It cannot be correct that she moved from Fredrikshald (Halden) to Kristiania in the spring (vaaren) 1883 - she is on the 1885 census for Fredrikshald together with her mother Lisa.

Can find a Lisa Jonasdatter on the 1910 census for Fredrikshald. She is from Torsko parish = Torrskog parish
Don't know if this is "your" Lisa. She is supposed to be from Laxarby parish.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft ... 6333016053

The same person on the 1900 census for Fredrikshald
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcen ... 12032#ovre

Tove DJ

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 16.54

Lisa Brandes died February 17th 1917. She was born 1831 in Sweden
Kjeldeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Halden, Klokkarbok nr. 11 (1906-1934), Døde og gravlagde 1917, side 229.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-196
Tove DJ

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av gj05515 » 16. februar 2014 kl. 16.54

Birth #8 - I don't know why I couldn't find this earlier!

Kildeinformasjon: Østfold fylke, Skjeberg, Ministerialbok nr. I 7 (1859-1868), Fødte og døpte 1861, side 88.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-78

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 17.27

Good to hear that you found Laura in the section for Ingedal! I missed her too.
When did she get that second name Marie, it is not in the baptism records?
The record also has got the information that Lisa was from Laxarby parish (in Dalsland, Sweden) and that the father of the child Lars Pedersen was from Fredrikstad.

I am not sure what to think about the Lisa who died in 1917. She is about the right age, but is supposed to be from Torsko = Torrskog, not from Laxarby.

Tove DJ

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Re: Laura Larsdatter, born 1860

Legg inn av Tove Dahl Johansen » 16. februar 2014 kl. 18.00

Looks like we can forget about the Lisa who was married to Gustav Brander
I could find Gustav on the 1885 census with wife Elisabeth, and Lisa is short for Elisabeth.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en ... 3249011478

Tove DJ

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