Marith Pedersdatter married 07 Jun 1805 Lade in Strinda

[Thad Carlson]

Hello,

I am looking for the birth record for Marith Pedersdatter to find her parents, date of birth, and baptism date. The only information I have is her marriage record to Jonas Jonsen and the birth records for three of their children.

I did have a genealogist at The Norwegian Emigration Center (Stavanger) look at this once before, but they could not find Marith's birth record.

Marriage record 07 Jun 1805 “Bachelor and dragoon Jonas Jonsen, Krudtværket, a crofter’s place under Selsbakk Øvre, and the widow Marith Pedersdatter, Leermarken.” Sør-Trøndelag county, Lade in Strinda, Parish register copy nr. 606C02 (1797-1829), Marriage records 1803-1806, page 264-265. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-130

Birth of 1st child "Erich" 25 May 1806: Sør-Trøndelag county, Lade in Strinda, Parish register copy nr. 606C01 (1757-1819), Birth and baptism records 1806, page 206. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-216

Birth of 2nd child "Siri" 18 Mar 1810: Sør-Trøndelag county, Lade in Strinda, Parish register copy nr. 606C01 (1757-1819), Birth and baptism records 1810, page 230. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-241

Birth of 3rd child "Petronella" 13 Dec 1812: Sør-Trøndelag county, Bakke in Strinda, Parish register (official) nr. 604A02 (1798-1817), Chronological list 1812, page 168-169. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-87

Leermarken is a crofter’s place under the main farm Leeren (now Leiren) in Strinda. Norwegian Emigration Center was unsure if Leermarken was Marith's or her first husband’s home.

At the baptism of their first son Erich, there was a god-mother names Siri Pedersdatter. Siri might be a sister of Marith. This Siri is probably the same as registered in the 1801 census on the farm Blekkan, Strinda as a 32 years old worker. The Norwegian Emigration Center also looked for Marith's first marriage, and the death of her first husband. They could not find those records.

I could not find Marith Pedersdatter in the 1801 census on any farm in Strinda. Any assitance or guidance you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Thad Carlson
Eagan, Minnesota, USA

[Knut Ragnar Ansnes]

Hello Thad !

I'm afraid I can't help you much; just some suggestions re the children and their names.

1. Erich : A strong indication that Marit Pedersdatter's 1st husband was an "Erich". Naming the first child of same sex after a deceased husband or wife had often priority over naming them after grandparents. In this case renaming the dead Erich probably had priority over naming the boy after the grandfathers Jon and Peder.

2. Siri : Must be after her grandmother - the mother of Jonas Jonsen, Siri Jonsdatter, provided I have found the correct family in the 1801 census: http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/we ... =1575#ovre

3. Petronella, therefore, might be the name of Marit Pedersdatter's mother. If so, her parents are Peder and Petronella. But where ?

There are many possiblities when trying "Family Search". Jonas Jonsen was born approx. 1783, and Marit Pedersdatter could hardly have been born earlier than 1765-70, probably nearer to the age of Jonas, i e around 1780. A couple of "Marit Pedersdatter" married an "Erich" around 1800 at Klæbu, neighbouring parish to Strinda. This is as far as I have tried to search.

Kind regards
Knut

[Knut Ragnar Ansnes]

The estate of Erik Widriksen, deceased ( not sure about the "W" ) was settled 27th of May 1805. Erik Widriksen died 4th December, 1804. The name of the widow is Marit Pedersdatter, and they lived at the place ( husmannsplass ) "Rygen" under the farm Leeren at Strinda.

http://www.arkivverket.no/IMG:PDF:generate

I think this may be the Erik and Marit we were looking for. The writing is difficult, at least for me, some expert might rather take a look. For instance, are any children mentioned ? Why did Marit remarry so fast, was any extraordinary permit granted ?

Knut

[Knut Ragnar Ansnes]

It is actually Vidrichsen, a very uncommon name. Erik and Marit lived at Rønningen, Melhus, near Trondheim, Marit was born approx. 1778, Erik 1776, and they had 2 daughters as per 1801: Eli and Marit :
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCen ... 09267#ovre

Best regards
Knut

[Knut Ragnar Ansnes]

Conferring the link from Rønningen 1801 census; The chances are that ELI SEJERSDTR. is the grandmother of ELI ERIKSDTR., and consequently Eli Sejersdtr. is Marit Pedersdtr.s mother, and Isaach Pedersen is Marit's brother. ( Names appearing shortly prior to Erik and Marit ).

Knut - with a good night from the old world.

[Thad Carlson]

Hello Knut!

Thank you very much for your assistance! You are very skilled with family history research. I will look to see if I can find a birth record for Marith about 1778 with a monther's name of Eli Sejersdatter. Thank you for your efforts, I really appreciate your guidance!

Sincerely,

Thad Carlson
Eagan, Minnesota, USA

[18303]

Eli Sejersdtr b. 1745, father Sejer Rynning

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-13

Eli Sejersdtr Rønningen was married three times and her second husband was Peder Isachsen.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-13

Niels Jonsen Øiaas and Elen Sejersdtr m. 24.9.1764

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... dx_side=-6

Peder Isachsen Bleke and Elen Øiaas m. 29.9.1773

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-59

Ingebrigt Jonsen Holum and Elen Rynningen m. 15.1.1788

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-60

Marit Pedersdtr Rønningen conf. in Melhus 1794

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-53

Erich Vidriksen died 16.12.1804 nr 49.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-155

Randi

[Knut Ragnar Ansnes]

OK, the legal settlement after Erik says he died 4th December:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1 ... 620440.jpg
Source: Skifte Strinda/Selbu 17 May 1802 - 2 April 1807, page 437b

4th or 16th December ? - of no great importance.

Another slight mistake:

I wrote above:

3. Petronella, therefore, might be the name of Marit Pedersdatter's mother. If so, her parents are Peder and Petronella.

Marit's mother was ELI, not Petronella. But Marit already had a daughter by the name of Eli in her 1st marriage. Obviously named after her grandmother.

Apologies !

And now RANDI has done a great work in tracing so many ancestors.

Regards
Knut

[Thad Carlson]

Wow! Thank you, Randi! You have done amazing work with this family. Are you by any chance a descendant of Eli Sejersdtr?

Thank you also, Knut. You are right in that a difference of 12 days is not important when we are talking about a time 200+ years ago.

[18303]

I’m no descendant of Eli Sejersdtr. Ancestors of my husband was living at Rønningen
and my great great grandfather and his siblings were born at Leermarken, two aunts and uncles are living there in 1801.

Marit Erichsdtr Leermarken 15 y. conf. In Strinda 24 Apr. 1814

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-103

Elen Erichsdtr married to Olaus Erichsen Dahl 20.5.1828 Domkirken, Trondheim

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-278

Their son Ernst Edvard Dahl born 6.9.1829 Domkirken

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-132

Ernst in Levanger, Nord-Trøndelag 1865

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCen ... k=577#ovre

Isach Pedersen Rønningen af Melhus m. Bereth Salomonsdtr Brøseth 8.4.1806 Strinda

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-54

Peder Isachsen døpt 8.4.1806, witn. Marit Pedersdtr Leermarken

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-217

Peder Isachsen døpt 18.10.1807, witn. Jonas Jonsen Leermarken

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-226

Ingebrigt Isachsen døpt 9.10.1814

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... _side=-272

Johan Bernt Isachsen f 6.6.1827

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?i ... x_side=-91

Randi