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Clagett, Brice

C.P. Addition: New daughters for Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Earl o

Legg inn av Clagett, Brice » 25 okt 2004 20:29:12

The new Oxford DNB, in its biography of Sir Reginald de Mohun, says of
his
first wife, Hawise: "her surname is not known but Maxwell-Lyte cites
evidence
that she may have been the heir of the Flemyngs of Ottery." The
reference is
to _A History of Dunster_ (1909), by Sir H.C. Maxwell-Lyte, which does
say
this but without conclusive proof.

Is this simply a case (I have noted others) where the "new" Oxford DNB,
ironically, relies on older authorities which have been superseded?
According
to Ancestral Roots 8th ed. (2004) p. 138, citing VCH Berks 3:512, Hawise
was
a daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter and received as her maritagium the
manor
of Streatley, Berkshire, from her half-brother William de Mandeville,
Earl of
Essex.

Chris Phillips

Re: C.P. Addition: New daughters for Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Ea

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 25 okt 2004 20:29:13

Brice Clagett wrote:
The new Oxford DNB, in its biography of Sir Reginald de Mohun, says of his
first wife, Hawise: "her surname is not known but Maxwell-Lyte cites
evidence
that she may have been the heir of the Flemyngs of Ottery." The reference
is
to _A History of Dunster_ (1909), by Sir H.C. Maxwell-Lyte, which does say
this but without conclusive proof.

Is this simply a case (I have noted others) where the "new" Oxford DNB,
ironically, relies on older authorities which have been superseded?
According to Ancestral Roots 8th ed. (2004) p. 138, citing VCH Berks
3:512, Hawise
was a daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter and received as her maritagium the
manor of Streatley, Berkshire, from her half-brother William de
Mandeville,
Earl of Essex.

Even more bizarrely, it seems that the author of the DNB article did not
consult the Complete Peerage account of Reynold de Mohun (vol. 9, pp. 19,
20), where a footnote gives - qualified by "apparently" - the same
identification as Ancestral Roots, and adds "The author of Dunster suggested
that she was daughter, and possibly heir, of William Fleming, but, after
examination of documents citing in the account of Streatley given in V.C.H.,
Berkshire, he now inclines to credit the older view as above."

The new DNB website says that the online version will be updated 3 times a
year, so thankfully there's no need for any of us to start up a set of
"Corrections to the DNB" web pages! I've emailed them to ask how they'd like
to be notified of errors such as this one.

Chris Phillips

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: C.P. Addition: New daughters for Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Ea

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 25 okt 2004 22:49:31

In article <cljer0$aev$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Chris Phillips" <cgp@medievalgenealogy.org.uk> wrote:

... I've emailed them to ask how they'd like
to be notified of errors such as this one.

Please let us know what sort of response you get!

Nat Taylor

a genealogist's sketchbook:
http://home.earthlink.net/~nathanieltaylor/leaves/

Chris Phillips

Re: C.P. Addition: New daughters for Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Ea

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 29 okt 2004 20:10:31

I wrote:
The new DNB website says that the online version will be updated 3 times a
year, so thankfully there's no need for any of us to start up a set of
"Corrections to the DNB" web pages! I've emailed them to ask how they'd
like
to be notified of errors such as this one.

I've just had a reply saying that the DNB welcomes "feedback from our
readers, including corrections, additions to bibiographies, and suggestions
for new entries" by email to oxforddnb@oup.com or by post to the address on
their contact web page:
http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/contact/#contacts

Chris Phillips

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