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Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William Com

Legg inn av Gjest » 22 okt 2004 22:00:29

Apparently there is some disagreement about the interpretation of the
following fine:

Calendar of Documents pertaining to Scotland preserved in her majestys public
Record office, London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, H.M. General
Register House 1881, Edinburgh:

#2302. May 19, 1262

Pleas of divers counties [at Bedford before Henry de Turri and others the
king's justices errant] on the morrow of the Lord's Ascension.

Symon Baard and Isabella his wife are in amercement for many defaults, versus
William Cumyn and Eufemia his wife. Symon and Isabella were summoned to
answer to William and Eufemia in a plea that they should deliver them 540 marks
which they owe and unjustly detain & c. and William and Eufemia by their attorney
say that a certain Eufemia, grandmother of Eufemia, enfeoffed the latter in
the manor of Athelgatlthwyn in Scotland of the grandmother's heritage. And she
delivered the same to the aforesaid Isabella to be kept for the use of the
said Eufemia for three years, answering to the latter yearly for 100 marks for
said manor, and she was under age and Isabella at the end of the said term
acknowledged herself to be owing the said Eufemia 300 marks; so that the latter
granted to Isabella the manor to be held for other three years, she paying 80
marks per annum. And Isabella in like manner acknowledged herself to be due
Eufemia 240 marks, the total being 540 marks; and granted her writing to pay the
sum at the pleasure of the said Eufemia. But Symon and Isabella ever since have
detained and continue to detain the money, whereby William and Eufemia say
they are damaged to the extent of 1000 marks, and therefore bring the suit and
propound Isabelle's writing witnessing the debt. Symon and Isabella say that
they were not bound to answer the writ, as the said manor of Athelgalthethwyn in
respect of which the debt is demanded, is out of the kingdom of England, viz.
in Scotland. And they are in seizin of the same, as the free hold of Isabella,
by the feoffment of Euphemia, grandmother of Eufemia, and mother of Isabella.
And the tenement in respect of which the debt is demanded, is in Scotland out
of the king of England's power. And likewise the contract of debt and the
obligatory writing proffered by the plaintiffs, was made out of England, as they
admit in their narration. Nor are the witnesses thereto of that kingdom
(except Simon Baard only) by whom the writing could be proved if needful. They ask
judgment if they ought to answer here to the said debt or writing. And
Isabella, asked if she executed the said writing said, 'No, nor was it ever made by
her.' And William and Eufemia by their attorney say, that Simon and Isabella
have no lands or tenements out of the kingdom of England, by which they can be
distrained or justified. And that the said Simon and Isabella are the king of
England's 'men' and in his power and have nothing in said manor save by the
demise (dimissio) of the plaintiffs as aforesaid; and therefore both parties are
of this realm, and the power of the king of England. And Simon and Isabella
have nothing within the realm of Scotland whereby they can be distrained or
justified; and this the plaintiffs are ready to verify by the king of Scotland's
court or otherwise as the court decides. And in like manner that the said
Isabella in her lawful widowhood granted them the writing which they have proffered
regarding the said debt, by the witnesses therein named, or otherwise as the
court shall decide; some of whom are of this kingdom and some of Scotland; [and
ask] whether (si) they ought not to answer to this plea for a debt which is
not [one] of land or tenement out of the kingdom, although due by reason of
(occasione) such a tenement.

A day is given them to hear their case (judicium) in a month from Holy
Trinity at Chelmerford. And Simon appears by Robert Scherwind or Thomas of Ireland
(de Hibernia) and Isabella appears by John Bayard or William le Petit. [Assize
Roll, Bedford, 46 Henry III, m. 4, m17]

Isabella is the daughter of Euphemia Stewart and Patrick de Dunbar, 6th earl
of Dunbar. Her first husband was Roger FitzJohn de Clavering, 5th Baron of
Warkworth, son of John FitzRobert de Clavering 4th Baron of Warkworth and Magna
Carta Surety by his wife Ada de Balliol. She is the mother of Robert FitzRoger
de Clavering. Her second husband was Simon de Baard[Bayard] who she married
before May 19, 1262.

The fine clearly shows that Eufemia, wife of William Comyn and after his
death wife of Sir Andrew de Moray, was the granddaughter of Eufemia Stewart and
that Athelgalthwyn castle was her heritage. Eufemia was the daughter of Walter
Stewart by his wife Beatrix of Angus.

The question comes in as to the relationship between Isabella de Dunbar and
Eufemia. I do not believe that Eufemia is the daughter of Isabella de Dunbar
and Robert FitzJohn de Clavering. There is no reference in the fine to her
being the daughter of Isabella which would have been spelled out if that were the
case. I think it more likely that she is the daughter of Patrick de Dunbar,
7th earl of Dunbar by his wife Christian de Brus and niece of Isabella which
agrees with all the information presented in the fine.

Does anyone have any other information which might help ascertain the
identity of Eufemia's parents?

Regards,
MichaelAnne

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 22 okt 2004 23:23:18

Friday, 22 October, 2004


Dear MichaelAnne,

Excellent! While perhaps tangential to your purpose at
hand, you've also presented a CP addition as to the identity of
Isabel - according to my notes from CP III:274-5, only Roger
fitz John, father of Robert fitz Roger (1st of Clavering) is
identified. Isabel was previously named as such, according to
my notes, only in MC 5.

Since every genealogical answer must yield at least two
questions, I think you have the probable answer to one. It
does seem likely that Eufemia, wife of William Comyn of
Kilbride, was the daughter of Patrick de Dunbar, Earl of Dunbar
(or March) who d. 24 Aug 1289. Based on that death date,
obviously the lands in Scotland in question in the 1262 plea
was Eufemia (de Dunbar) Comyn's maritagium, and not
inheritance - not only was her father still alive, but acc.
to my notes her grandmother Euphemia (le Stewart) de Dunbar
only d. ca. 1267 [SP].

Two things for review/consideration:

1. Patrick de Dunbar (d. 1289) was married to Cecilia,
surname unproven: the daughter of John (surname
unknown, but guessed to have been John Fraser),
Cecilia was

' The Earl's only recorded wife and the mother of his
sons ' [SP III:259, cites Liber de Calchou, i.57, 60 ]

Christian, wife of (1) William de Brus and (2) Patrick,
Earl of Dunbar, was the 2nd wife of Earl Patrick
(d. 1232), the grandfather of Earl Patrick (d. 1289) and
of Isabel. It was Ada, illeg. daughter of William the
Lion, King of Scots who was the grandmother in this
instance (not Christian, whose surname is unknown).

2. I show that Euphemia le Stewart had the manor of
Birkynside, co. Lauderdale as her maritagium [SP III:256,
cites Registrum de Dryburgh, 84, 85 ].

This might be the location of the mysterious
castle called 'Athelgatlthwyn'.......


Thanks again for another fantastic find!

Cheers,

John

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 04 nov 2004 11:30:44

In message of 22 Oct, ClaudiusI0@aol.com wrote:

Apparently there is some disagreement about the interpretation of the
following fine:

Calendar of Documents pertaining to Scotland preserved in her
majestys public Record office, London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I
1108-1272, H.M. General Register House 1881, Edinburgh:


<snip of brilliant find of a court plea>


Isabella is the daughter of Euphemia Stewart and Patrick de Dunbar,
6th earl of Dunbar. Her first husband was Roger FitzJohn de Clavering,
5th Baron of Warkworth, son of John FitzRobert de Clavering 4th Baron
of Warkworth and Magna Carta Surety by his wife Ada de Balliol. She
is the mother of Robert FitzRoger de Clavering. Her second husband
was Simon de Baard [Bayard] who she married before May 19, 1262.

The fine clearly shows that Eufemia, wife of William Comyn and after
his death wife of Sir Andrew de Moray, was the granddaughter of
Eufemia Stewart and that Athelgalthwyn castle was her heritage.
Eufemia was the daughter of Walter Stewart by his wife Beatrix of
Angus.

I have been struggling with the above. I am puzzled about Euphemia
Stewart. She was married, above, to Patrick, 6th earl of Dunbar. But
who were her parents?

In the original CP article, Vol IV, p. 506, Patrick _5th_ earl of Dunbar
is said to have married Eupheme, dau of William FitzAlan. Patrick the
6th earl married Cecil who was conjectured to be be a Fraser.

Then in CP Corrections Vol XIV p. 282 they state that:

(a) Eupheme's parents were William de Brus and Christina who was earl
Patrick's stepsister, referencing MacEwan, The Genealogist, Vol 9 of
1988 pp. 231 and 236.

(b) Cecil[ia] the wife of Patrick the sixth earl of Dunbar was probably
the da. of John FitzRobert of Warkworth ... referencing the same
MacEwan but pp. 231-6.

It sounds as if corrections are needed to CP's corrections but what is
the evidence that the elder Euphemia the wife of Patrick, probably 5th
earl of Dunbar, was a Stewart?

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 nov 2004 16:01:02

Dear Tim,

Euphemia, wife of Patrick 6th earl of Dunbar, was identified in Scots
Peerage [SP III:256] as the daughter of Walter Stewart. This has been diproven by
the article of Andrew B. W. MacEwen which was published in the Genealogist
Fall 2003:


Seven Scottish Countesses: A Miscellany - III. Cristina de Brus, Countess of
Dunbar, Vol. 17, no.2, pages 223-233.

Best regards,
MichaelAnne Guido

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 nov 2004 20:41:01

"Euphemia, wife of Patrick 6th earl of Dunbar,"

Andrew B. W. MacEwen, the noted Scots genealogist, In an article in The Genealogist), in which he documented the identification of Euphemia as a daughter of William de Brus, Lord of Annandale (d. bef 26 Jun 1215) by his wife Cristina, the daughter of Walter fitz Alan [5].

That is to say, Cristina of or off Steward.
Walter FitzAlan, 1st steward of scotland.
So her mother was a Steward/t

Chris Phillips

Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Chris Phillips » 04 nov 2004 22:04:37

Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote:
I have been struggling with the above.

I have also been struggling to keep up with the excellent information that's
been posted by MichaelAnne and John on these families.

I'm still a bit confused by one aspect - Euphemia the wife of Patrick, Earl
of Dunbar (d. 1248) has a granddaughter Euphemia, wife of William Comyn, as
documented by the plea posted by MichaelAnne. And John has suggested that
Euphemia, the daughter of William, Earl of Ross (d. 1322/3), may have been
another granddaughter of the elder Euphemia.

But there doesn't seem any clear evidence about the parents of these
granddaughters Euphemia. John has suggested one is the daughter of Roger
fitz John and Isabel, and the other the daughter of Patrick, Earl of Dunbar,
and Cecily "filia Johannis". But unless I'm completely confused, they've
been assigned different ways round in different posts. Indeed, is there a
possibility that one or both of the younger Euphemias could be children of
different children entirely of the elder Euphemia?

Chris Phillips

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 04 nov 2004 22:31:01

"But there doesn't seem any clear evidence about the parents of these granddaughters Euphemia. John has suggested one is the daughter of Roger fitz John and Isabel, and the other the daughter of Patrick, Earl of Dunbar, and Cecily "filia Johannis". But unless I'm completely confused, they've been assigned different ways round in different posts. Indeed, is there a possibility that one or both of the younger Euphemias could be children of different children entirely of the elder Euphemia?"

I haven't seen this confusion.
It seems that Euphemia, wife of William Comyn of Kilbride has been suggested to be the daughter of Isabel. I don't recall whether it was stated who the father was since Isabel was married at last twice. At least I didn't note that so perhaps I was confused on which husband of Isabel was supposed to be the father of this granddaughter Euphemia, wife of Comyn.

Will

Tim Powys-Lybbe

Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Tim Powys-Lybbe » 05 nov 2004 00:11:15

In message of 4 Nov, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:

Chris Phillips wrote:

"But there doesn't seem any clear evidence about the parents of these
granddaughters Euphemia. John has suggested one is the daughter of
Roger fitz John and Isabel, and the other the daughter of Patrick,
Earl of Dunbar, and Cecily "filia Johannis". But unless I'm
completely confused, they've been assigned different ways round in
different posts. Indeed, is there a possibility that one or both of
the younger Euphemias could be children of different children
entirely of the elder Euphemia?"

I haven't seen this confusion.

I have and remain so!

It seems that Euphemia, wife of William Comyn of Kilbride has been
suggested to be the daughter of Isabel.

And there is the suggestion that she was not the daughter of Isabel de
Dunbar. I don't think there has been hard evidence either way.

I don't recall whether it was stated who the father was since Isabel
was married at last twice. At least I didn't note that so perhaps I
was confused on which husband of Isabel was supposed to be the father
of this granddaughter Euphemia, wife of Comyn.

This assumes that Euphemia was the daughter of Isabel de Dunbar, which
has not been established.

But I am reasonably satisfied on the earlier generations, having spent
much of today thrashing round my reference books and the many super
postings. However I am still not sure of the identification of
Christina, wife of, successively, William Brus and Patrick 4th (CP's
count) earl of Dunbar, with a daughter of Walter the first Steward.

I must get into a "good library" and have a look at MacEwan's 1988 and
2003 articles in The Genealogist. I hope to be in such in two weeks;
let's hope they have the issues of that magazine.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org
For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 nov 2004 00:21:02

Thursday, 4 November, 2004


Dear Chris, Tim, Will, et al.,

You are correct (Chris) in that there was a 'change in placement' as
to Euphemia, wife of (1) William Comyn of Kilbride and (2) Sir Andrew
Murray.

My original guess was, that Euphemia was a niece of Isabel de Dunbar,
and a daughter of Isabel's brother Patrick earl of Dunbar (d.1289) by his
wife Cecilia. Subsequently, in seeking to find a rational (if unproven
as yet) 'place' for Euphemia, the parentless wife of William, Earl of
Ross, it seemed more logical to me for this Euphemia to have been the
daughter of a Scots earl, and the Euphemia m. to William Comyn of
Kilbride to have been the daughter of a non-comital lord (e.g. Roger fitz
John of Warkworth). Two items that support the present placement of the
latter Euphemia (__) (Comyn) Murray as daughter of Isabel de Dunbar and
Roger fitz John:

1. Isabel's brother Earl Patrick was alive at the time of the
dispute between Euphemia and William Comyn on one part, and
Isabel de Dunbar and her 2nd husband Simon Baard of the 2nd
part. It seems illogical for Isabel to have been placed as
guardian for the minor Euphemia as to the castle given her
by the elder Euphemia de Brus, Countess of Dunbar, UNLESS
Isabel was in fact Euphemia's mother, and not her aunt.

2. In discussing these finds with Andrew MacEwen last week,
he stated that Euphemia was the daughter of Isabel de
Dunbar and Roger fitz John.

The chart I provided in the SGM post of 29 October, <CP Correction:
Cecilia, wife of Patrick, Earl of Dunbar>, is the 'correct' presentation and
is
replicated below (including my conjectured placement of Euphemia, wife
of William, Earl of Ross).


Robert fitz = Margaret HUGH de Baliol = CECILY de
Roger I de Chesney d. 1229 I Fontaines
I ______________________I___
I I I
JOHN fitz = Ada JOHN = Devorguilla
Robert I de Baliol I of Galloway
_______________I_________________________ I____
I I I I
I HUGH de Eure __________ I ___I____________
I I I I I I I
Roger fitz = Isabel de Patrick = CECILIA HUGH JOHN CECILY
John I Dunbar of Dunbar I 'filia <King>
I d. 1289 I Johannis'
I I
___________I____ ______I__________ _ _ _ _ _
I I I I I I
Robert EUPHEMIA Patrick JOHN Alexander EUPHEMIA
fitz = 1) William (conjectured wife
Roger Comyn of of William, Earl
Kilbride of Ross)
2) Sir Andrew
Murray



Cheers,

John

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Re: Magna Carta line of Eufemia (was Eufemia wife of William

Legg inn av Gjest » 05 nov 2004 02:51:01

Dear John, Tim, Chris, James etal,

In my last post I cited an inquisition of the manor of Stokesley, the
maritagium of Ada de Baillol. There was no reference in the posting to the Eure
surname but this does show there were two other sons of Ada de Baillol by John Fitz
Robert; Hugh de Eure and Robert de Eure. The heir was Roger Fitz John who
inherited his father's patrimony.

I believe this Robert de Eure cited in the inquisition to be the first
husband of Isabella de Merlay. Her second husband was Robert de Somerville. The
Merlay family were also distant cousins of the Dunbars.

Juliana de Dunbar, daughter of Gospatric earl of Dunbar by Sybil Morel and
sister to Waldeve father of Patric earl of Dunbar died Dec. 31, 1232 married to
(1) Ada, daughter of William the Lion (2) Christina Stewart, married Ranulf de
Merlay.

(1) Calendar of Documents pertaining to Scotland preserved in her majestys
public Record office, London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, H.M.
General Register House 1881, Edinburgh:

#1712. April 11, 1247
........Lord H[enry] the king the grandfather of [the king's] grandfather and
Earl Quaspatricus (Gospatric), gave to Randulg de Merlaco (Merlay) in free
marriage with Juliana the daughter of Quaspatricus, Wyttone, Wyndegates,
Horseley, Stantone, Rittone, and Leverilcheld. Roger de Merlaco holds Wyttone, and
Wyndegates; but in these are many 'feofati'.

Juliana and Ranulf de Merlay had a son Roger de Merlay that married Alice de
Stuteville. Roger died in 1188 leaving a son and heir Roger de Merlay and a
daughter Agnes de Merlay. The son Roger de Merlay was the ward of Duncan earl of
Fife and married his daughter.

(2) Calendar of Documents pertaining to Scotland preserved in her majestys
public Record office, London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, H.M.
General Register House 1881, Edinburgh:

#191. 1188.
Northumberland:----Roger de Glanville renders his account; in lands granted
to the king of Scotland, £10 in Tinsdale.
New Pleas:--- Earl Dunecan (of Fife) accounts of 500 marks for the custody of
Roger de Merlay's land, and his son; and that the son may marry the said
Earl's daughter. He has paid into the treasury 250 marks, and he owes 250 marks.
Radulf Baiard accounts for 1 mark, which he owes yearly for the ward of his
niece. He has paid it into the treasury; and he is quit. [Pipe Rolls, 24 Henry
II. Rot. 8]

#202. 1189.
Northumberland:---Roger de Glanville renders his account; in lands granted to
the king of Scotland; £10 in Tindale. Tallage of the thanes and drengs of
Northumberland:---The sheriff owes £4 14s. 11d. of the aid of Werch with
pertinents. Earl Dunecan accounts for 250 marks for the ward of Roger de Merlay's land
and his son; and that the son may marry the Earl's daughter. He has paid into
the Treasury £40; and he owes £126 13s. 4d. He accounts for this debt; has
delivered it to the treasury, and is quit. [Pipe Rolls, 1 Richard I, Rot. 14
dorso]

#104. 1166.
Northumberland:---William de Vesci renders his account; in lands granted; to
the brother of the king of Scotland, £10 in Tindale.
Of the pleas of Earl Geoffry and Richard de Lucy:---
The men of Tindale. Kiochher of Wal' owes 1 mark; Turkil Cadiol owes 2 marks;
Adam of Nunnewic owes 40s. These are in amercement for failure to come before
the justices. Roger de Merlai owes 10 marks and 1 "chacur" for the concord
between him and Eilaf son of Gospatric, about land. Wilechin son of William the
moneyer of New Castle, owes 30 marks for lead found under his land. [Pipe
Rolls, Henry II, Rot. 5 dorso.]

Roger de Merlay died in 1239 leaving a son Roger de Merlay. This son had two
daughters and heirs Isabella de Merlay married (1) Robert de Eure (2) Robert
de Somerville and Mary de Merlay married William de Greystoke.

(3) #1719. Oct. 13-20, 1247.
Pleas at Cambridge of the quinzaine and the third week after Michaelmas.
Northumberland:---The sheriff enjoined in full county to cause the imparlance
there by the king's writ between Roger de Merlegh, plaintiff, and Patric earl of
Dunbar, defendant, regarding the manors of Whyttone, Rettone, Stanton,
Horsleghe, Wyndegates, and Levericheshille, wherein the earl complains that a false
trail had been made in the count, to be recorded; and to send that record before
the justices at Cambridge on this day, by four of the knights of the county
who were present thereon, and to summon Roger to hear the same. The four
knights came with the record which is on the bundle (ligula) of writs. Roger and the
earl came, and a day is given them on the morrow of St. Hilary, at
Chlmerford, at the request of parties.

The earl appoints in his place William Wascelym or Adam le Despencer against
Roger de Merlaco and the county of Northumberland in a plea of hearing the
record; and Roger appoints Nicholas the clerk or Alan of Morpathe. [Coram Rege
Rolls, 31 Henry III. No. 66, m. 14].

#2647. May 12, 1271.
Robert de Somerville, narrating that the king had given to Sir Richard de
Middleton archdeacon of Northumberland his clerk, the forfeiture of the marriage
of Isabella widow if Sir Robert de Eure, daughter and one of the heirs of Sir
Roger de Merlay, who held and holds of the king in capite, if she married
without the king's or Sir Richard's licence--that he [the granter] had married
Isabella after the death of Sir Robert, and made a fine with Sir Richard for £80
good and lawful 'sterlings' to be paid to him or his attorney at
Newcastle-on-Tyne; viz. £40 within the octaves of St. Michael next following; under penalty
of £10 for not keeping one or other of said terms; one half of said penalty
to be paid to Sir Richard, and the other half to the sheriff of Northumberland
for the time---binds himself and his heirs assigns or executors, and all his
lands, goods, chattels within the bailliary, for the whole sum, orincipla and
penalty, under the distraint of the sheriff, till payment of the same, with all
expenses and damages incurred; on the simple word of the said Sir Richard or
his attorney. Append his seal. Witnesses:---Sir Philip Marmiun, knight, Sir
John de Kirkeby, William de Hamelton, Robert de Scardebur' and William Bidik,
clerks, and many others. [Close Rolls, 56 Henry III, m. 9, dorso].

#2655. July 2, 1272.
Northumberland:---J[ohn] de Oketon is appointed to hold an assize of novel
disseizin which Robert de Somerville and Isabella his wife arraign against
William de Craystok and Maria his wife concerning [a Tenement] in Morpathe.
[Woodstock.] [ Patent Rolls, 56 Henry III, m. 21, dorso]

This is another link with the Dunbar family. I also cited that Savecampe was
the heritage of Isabel de Valognes, wife of David Comyn and mother of William
Comyn. She also held other estates in England.

(4)Calendar of Documents pertaining to Scotland preserved in her majestys
public Record office, London edited by Joseph Bain, Vol. I 1108-1272, H.M.
General Register House 1881, Edinburgh:

#1920. May 3, 1253.
Extent made of the manor of Fakenham by oath of twelve freemen, by William
the king's escheator in Suffolk, on Holy Rood Day in May in the king's 37th
year. [Under writ by E[dmund] abbot of Persore, addressed to Sir William Russell
his co-escheator in Suffolk reciting a royal writ to himself, dated
Westminster, 17th April same year, directing an inquisition into the lands of Isabella de
Valoynes,deceased.] The jurors John of Stantone, Saher of Sytantone, William
of Borderwelle, Geoffrey of Thorp, Thomas of Ashcroft, William Brito, Eadmund
son of William, Goeffrey son of Hubert, William son of Martin, Richard of
Fakeham clerk, Bartholomew of Fakeham, John of Lyvermere, say there are 360 acres
of arable land, value of each 2d; total 4 1/2 marks. Also 12 acres of meadow,
value of each 18d; total 18s. Of pasture, 2 marks. Of fixed rents £5 10s. 9d.
From the garden 2s. From the Pigeonhouse 4s. From a water mill 20s. From the
yearly rent of geese (aucarum) 20 geese, value of each 1d; total 20d. From the
rent of hens, 60 hens and 20 cocks (gall') value of each 1/2d.; total 3s. 4d.
From one man and half of Sapston, 5 men and 1 cock, value 3d. From Aurnem the
Smith of Euston 2 capons 'in vita sua'. From the Easter rent, 436 eggs, value
9d. From the rent of one pound of cumyn, value 1d. From the abbot of Tyletey,
1 pair of spurs, value 6d. From 21 1/2 'operaii' 2520 services, value of each
1/2d; total £6 9s. From 5 'operaii' from the Feast of St. John till the Feast
of St. Michael, 70 services value of each, 1/2 d.; total 35d. Sum total of
services £6 10s. 11d. Ralf de Sayham and Isabel de Berningham hold a quarter of a
knight. The Prior of Theford Monacorum holds half a knight's fee. They say
also that the manor is defended against the king, from a fee held in capite of
the king, and pays to the ward of Norwich Castle 3s. 10 1/2d. and she holds of
the Abbot of St. Eadmund a knight's fee and pays whenever scutage shall amount
(evenerit) to 11s., half a mark They say also that William, son of Isabella
de Valoynes is her nearest heir, and that his age is sixteen years. She held
nothing of others. The sum total, £18 19s.11d. [Inq. p.m. 37 Henry III, no. 45]

She also held Savecampe in Hertfordshire, Hecham in Essex and Dersingham in
Norfolk.

There are a number of fines pertaining to David Comyn and his wife Isabella
along with her two sisters Christina wife of Peter Maule [Maune] and Lora wife
of Henry de Baillol.

MichaelAnne

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