Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

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Daniel MacGregor

Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av Daniel MacGregor » 21 okt 2004 17:11:02

Looking to expand the information I have compiled in my "Hollywood
Vines" notebook, the following info was taken from websites at
rootsweb.com:

Living (Cynthia Anne, "Cindy") CRAWFORD (supermodel, 1st wife of actor
Richard Tiffany Gere): Living CRAWFORD & Jennifer Sue WALKER; Kenneth
Leroy CRAWFORD & Ramona Eileen HEMINGWAY; Frank Randall HEMINGWAY &
Hazel Mae BROWN.

Frank Randall Hemingway (1896-1987) lived in Blue Earth County,
Minnesota, where he is also buried.

Presumably, he belongs to the same family that produced Ernest Miller
Hemingway and granddaughters Margaux and Mariel.

I'll be trying to find a county history for Blue Earth County today at
the Newberry Library.

Meanwhile, is there a Hemingway family genealogist out there who can
fill in the blanks?

Daniel MacGregor

Gjest

Re: Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av Gjest » 21 okt 2004 21:28:25

Daniel this is a Medieval list. The connections you are looking for are much too recent. I would suggest posting to boards.ancestry.com or http://www.genforum.com on their HEMINGWAY's boards.
Will Johnson


"Looking to expand the information I have compiled in my "Hollywood
Vines" notebook, the following info was taken from websites at
rootsweb.com:

Living (Cynthia Anne, "Cindy") CRAWFORD (supermodel, 1st wife of actor
Richard Tiffany Gere): Living CRAWFORD & Jennifer Sue WALKER; Kenneth
Leroy CRAWFORD & Ramona Eileen HEMINGWAY; Frank Randall HEMINGWAY &
Hazel Mae BROWN.

Frank Randall Hemingway (1896-1987) lived in Blue Earth County,
Minnesota, where he is also buried.

Presumably, he belongs to the same family that produced Ernest Miller
Hemingway and granddaughters Margaux and Mariel.

I'll be trying to find a county history for Blue Earth County today at
the Newberry Library.

Meanwhile, is there a Hemingway family genealogist out there who can
fill in the blanks?

Daniel MacGregor"

History Writer

Re: Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av History Writer » 23 okt 2004 04:42:58

Thank you for your interesting posting. I have studied the Hemingway
family for many years since I know many of writer Ernest Miller
Hemingway's close relatives. However, Frank Randall Hemingway does
not even appear in the genealogy book by Ernest's sister-in-law (and
adoptive first cousin) Patricia Shedd Hemingway, who was Ernest's
younger brother Leicester's first wife. Her book "The Hemingways,
Past & Present and Allied Families" was published in 1988. Through
the Miller family the Hemingways are related to the Buzzard Baronets
-- best known as royal physicians -- who are also descended from 18th
century musician Edward Miller (c. 1730-1807), who Ernest's mother was
very proud of, and from whom Ernest's middle name comes.

Less well known is that the last woman to win the Nobel Prize for
Chemistry (1964), Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin (1910-1994), is also a
descendant of musician Edward Miller. While some relatives of the
Hemingways in the U.S. have visited distant Buzzard relatives in the
UK this year, the Hodgkins I have contacted do not appear interested
in genealogy. Of note, is that Gen. Frank Buzzard (1875-1950), a
second cousin of Grace Hall (mother of Ernest), was married to Joan
Collier, a first cousin of Sir Andrew Huxley, who shared the Nobel
Prize for Medicine in 1963 with Alan Lloyd Hodgkin, first cousin of
Historian Thomas Hogdkin, husband of Nobel Laureate Dorothy Crowfoot,
whose great-grandmother, Ellen Miller (a granddaughter of musician
Edward Miller), married William Edward Crowfoot. (One can find the
Crowfoot genealogy in Burke's Family Records.) Clearly genius runs in
this family. Also of note is that writer Aldous Huxley, a brother of
Sir Andrew, died in the Los Angeles home of Virginia Pfeiffer, sister
to Pauline Pfeiffer, Ernest's second wife. (As far as I can tell the
Huxleys and Hemingways were unaware of this connection until
recently.)

I hope some find this of interest. A more detailed study is clearly
required. I would enjoy hearing from anyone with information on
musician Edward Miller's ancestry. He comes from very obscure origins
having run away from home in Norwich while in his teens after his
father tried to apprentice him to some trade. Through talent and hard
work, he later in life achieved a doctorate in Music from Cambridge in
1786, and is included in the "Dictionary of National Biography".

As for model Cindy Crawford's ancestry: I found through various
census records online that her great-grandfather Frank Randall
Hemingway (born 1896, Minnesota), was the son of Louis R. Hemingway
(born 1866, Minnesota), son of Frank S. Hemingway (born 1839, New
Hampshire), son of Jesse Hemingway (born 1802, New Hamphshire) and his
wife Lois Richardson (born 1802, New Hampshire). However, I cannot
yet connect Jesse Hemingway to anyone in Patricia Shedd Hemingway's
book, which does have many loose ends. In any event, the connection
between Cindy Crawford and Ernest Hemingway is clearly very distant.
Despite being a bit off topic, it is always a pleasure to hear from
someone interested in Hemingway genealogy. Best Regards.

dmaqgregor@hotmail.com (Daniel MacGregor) wrote in message news:<47114b80.0410210711.6d22a0c3@posting.google.com>...
Looking to expand the information I have compiled in my "Hollywood
Vines" notebook, the following info was taken from websites at
rootsweb.com:

Living (Cynthia Anne, "Cindy") CRAWFORD (supermodel, 1st wife of actor
Richard Tiffany Gere): Living CRAWFORD & Jennifer Sue WALKER; Kenneth
Leroy CRAWFORD & Ramona Eileen HEMINGWAY; Frank Randall HEMINGWAY &
Hazel Mae BROWN.

Frank Randall Hemingway (1896-1987) lived in Blue Earth County,
Minnesota, where he is also buried.

Presumably, he belongs to the same family that produced Ernest Miller
Hemingway and granddaughters Margaux and Mariel.

I'll be trying to find a county history for Blue Earth County today at
the Newberry Library.

Meanwhile, is there a Hemingway family genealogist out there who can
fill in the blanks?

Daniel MacGregor

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 23 okt 2004 16:29:46

Excellent Post....

Thanks for posting it -- and don't worry about the ankle-biters.

DSH

"History Writer" <hbv2061@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3943286.0410221842.392194bb@posting.google.com...

| Thank you for your interesting posting. I have studied the Hemingway
| family for many years since I know many of writer Ernest Miller
| Hemingway's close relatives. However, Frank Randall Hemingway does
| not even appear in the genealogy book by Ernest's sister-in-law (and
| adoptive first cousin) Patricia Shedd Hemingway, who was Ernest's
| younger brother Leicester's first wife. Her book "The Hemingways,
| Past & Present and Allied Families" was published in 1988. Through
| the Miller family the Hemingways are related to the Buzzard Baronets
| -- best known as royal physicians -- who are also descended from 18th
| century musician Edward Miller (c. 1730-1807), who Ernest's mother was
| very proud of, and from whom Ernest's middle name comes.
|
| Less well known is that the last woman to win the Nobel Prize for
| Chemistry (1964), Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin (1910-1994), is also a
| descendant of musician Edward Miller. While some relatives of the
| Hemingways in the U.S. have visited distant Buzzard relatives in the
| UK this year, the Hodgkins I have contacted do not appear interested
| in genealogy. Of note, is that Gen. Frank Buzzard (1875-1950), a
| second cousin of Grace Hall (mother of Ernest), was married to Joan
| Collier, a first cousin of Sir Andrew Huxley, who shared the Nobel
| Prize for Medicine in 1963 with Alan Lloyd Hodgkin, first cousin of
| Historian Thomas Hogdkin, husband of Nobel Laureate Dorothy Crowfoot,
| whose great-grandmother, Ellen Miller (a granddaughter of musician
| Edward Miller), married William Edward Crowfoot. (One can find the
| Crowfoot genealogy in Burke's Family Records.) Clearly genius runs in
| this family. Also of note is that writer Aldous Huxley, a brother of
| Sir Andrew, died in the Los Angeles home of Virginia Pfeiffer, sister
| to Pauline Pfeiffer, Ernest's second wife. (As far as I can tell the
| Huxleys and Hemingways were unaware of this connection until
| recently.)
|
| I hope some find this of interest. A more detailed study is clearly
| required. I would enjoy hearing from anyone with information on
| musician Edward Miller's ancestry. He comes from very obscure origins
| having run away from home in Norwich while in his teens after his
| father tried to apprentice him to some trade. Through talent and hard
| work, he later in life achieved a doctorate in Music from Cambridge in
| 1786, and is included in the "Dictionary of National Biography".
|
| As for model Cindy Crawford's ancestry: I found through various
| census records online that her great-grandfather Frank Randall
| Hemingway (born 1896, Minnesota), was the son of Louis R. Hemingway
| (born 1866, Minnesota), son of Frank S. Hemingway (born 1839, New
| Hampshire), son of Jesse Hemingway (born 1802, New Hamphshire) and his
| wife Lois Richardson (born 1802, New Hampshire). However, I cannot
| yet connect Jesse Hemingway to anyone in Patricia Shedd Hemingway's
| book, which does have many loose ends. In any event, the connection
| between Cindy Crawford and Ernest Hemingway is clearly very distant.
| Despite being a bit off topic, it is always a pleasure to hear from
| someone interested in Hemingway genealogy. Best Regards.
|
| dmaqgregor@hotmail.com (Daniel MacGregor) wrote in message
news:<47114b80.0410210711.6d22a0c3@posting.google.com>...
| > Looking to expand the information I have compiled in my "Hollywood
| > Vines" notebook, the following info was taken from websites at
| > rootsweb.com:
| >
| > Living (Cynthia Anne, "Cindy") CRAWFORD (supermodel, 1st wife of
actor
| > Richard Tiffany Gere): Living CRAWFORD & Jennifer Sue WALKER;
Kenneth
| > Leroy CRAWFORD & Ramona Eileen HEMINGWAY; Frank Randall HEMINGWAY &
| > Hazel Mae BROWN.
| >
| > Frank Randall Hemingway (1896-1987) lived in Blue Earth County,
| > Minnesota, where he is also buried.
| >
| > Presumably, he belongs to the same family that produced Ernest
Miller
| > Hemingway and granddaughters Margaux and Mariel.
| >
| > I'll be trying to find a county history for Blue Earth County today
at
| > the Newberry Library.
| >
| > Meanwhile, is there a Hemingway family genealogist out there who can
| > fill in the blanks?
| >
| > Daniel MacGregor

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Cindy Crawford And "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 27 okt 2004 17:45:42

No.

I just prefer to get responses here.

Thanks.

DSH

"Daniel MacGregor" <dmaqgregor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<5Lyed.195$E_3.3809@eagle.america.net>...

| > Excellent Post....
| >
| > Thanks for posting it -- and don't worry about the ankle-biters.
| >
| > DSH
|
| Wanted to post a response to you at the Email address you cite, but my
| own Hotmail account doesn't seem to want me to do that.
|
| Is there something I'm doing wrong?
|
| Daniel MacGregor

Daniel MacGregor

Re: Cindy Crawford and "Papa" Hemingway: Cousins?

Legg inn av Daniel MacGregor » 27 okt 2004 21:18:57

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<5Lyed.195$E_3.3809@eagle.america.net>...
Excellent Post....

Thanks for posting it -- and don't worry about the ankle-biters.

DSH

Wanted to post a response to you at the Email address you cite, but my
own Hotmail account doesn't seem to want me to do that.

Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Daniel MacGregor

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