Origin of Richard Bartlett of Newbury, MA (d. 1647)

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Nicola

Origin of Richard Bartlett of Newbury, MA (d. 1647)

Legg inn av Nicola » 15 okt 2004 20:48:04

Dear Newsgroup:

I'd like to know if anyone on this list would care to comment on
either of the two origins circulating on the Internet for Richard
Bartlett (d. 1647) of Newbury, Mass.

One version, the oldest and apparently the most widely believed, is
that he was born to an Edmund Bartlett in Ernley, Sussex about 1575.
This version gives him a lineage traceable to the 1300s and is given
online in great detail but with no sources, as far as I can tell. It
can be found, among other places, at:
http://www.aritek.com/hartgen/htm/bartlett.htm

A second version gives Richard's birthdate as 1592 and claims him to
have been a son of one Robert Bartlett of Fordington Manor, Dorset.
This version is apparently drawn from the Bartlett research of Peter
Bartlett, who though not a descendant of Richard of Newbury devotes
considerable discussion to him. It is also stated that the church
registers of Fordington include a January 1622 baptism record for a
Richard Bartlett, son of Richard and Joane; this could be consistent
with Richard of Newbury, whose son Richard was born in late 1621. This
version can be examined at:
http://www.bartlett.to/pend3.htm

Is either of these origins considered more sound than the other? Are
they both considered dubious? Thanks for your input.

John Brandon

Re: Origin of Richard Bartlett of Newbury, MA (d. 1647)

Legg inn av John Brandon » 16 okt 2004 05:13:37

Dear Newsgroup:

I'd like to know if anyone on this list would care to comment on
either of the two origins circulating on the Internet for Richard
Bartlett (d. 1647) of Newbury, Mass.

One version, the oldest and apparently the most widely believed, is
that he was born to an Edmund Bartlett in Ernley, Sussex about 1575.
This version gives him a lineage traceable to the 1300s and is given
online in great detail but with no sources, as far as I can tell. It
can be found, among other places, at:
http://www.aritek.com/hartgen/htm/bartlett.htm

A second version gives Richard's birthdate as 1592 and claims him to
have been a son of one Robert Bartlett of Fordington Manor, Dorset.
This version is apparently drawn from the Bartlett research of Peter
Bartlett, who though not a descendant of Richard of Newbury devotes
considerable discussion to him. It is also stated that the church
registers of Fordington include a January 1622 baptism record for a
Richard Bartlett, son of Richard and Joane; this could be consistent
with Richard of Newbury, whose son Richard was born in late 1621. This
version can be examined at:
http://www.bartlett.to/pend3.htm

Is either of these origins considered more sound than the other? Are
they both considered dubious? Thanks for your input.


The second website cited mentions "another Robert Bartlett, son of
William Bartlett of Frampton and baptized there 4.2.1639, [who] sailed
to North America with a sister, Magdaline, baptised 23.3.1630."

This is certainly correct, as the following shows --

http://etext.virginia.edu/salem/witchcr ... ex167.html

John Townsend

Re: Origin of Richard Bartlett of Newbury, MA (d. 1647)

Legg inn av John Townsend » 16 okt 2004 11:15:10

Nicola wrote in message ...
(snip)
Is either of these origins considered more sound than the other? Are
they both considered dubious? Thanks for your input.

As the two theories are contradictory and there is little evidence to
support them, they must both be considered dubious.

You could try to "kill off" the two candidates. In the first case, you
could try Sussex burial registers and wills. In the second, you could use
Dorset burial registers and wills, but also the 1641/2 Protestation returns
(listing males over 18) and the 1642 Contributions for Distressed
Protestants in Ireland (class SP28 at T.N.A.) Research along these and
similar lines may pursuade you that they remained in England, or strengthen
the notion that they emigrated.

Good luck!

John Townsend
Genealogist/Antiquarian Bookseller
http://www.johntownsend.demon.co.uk

John Brandon

Re: Origin of Richard Bartlett of Newbury, MA (d. 1647)

Legg inn av John Brandon » 16 okt 2004 19:24:54

As the two theories are contradictory and there is little evidence to
support them, they must both be considered dubious.

Pay at least a little attention, please. As I showed above, there is
some support for the second theory, in that a Magdalen Bartlett, known
to be from Dorset, was residing in Salem, Mass. (not too far from
Newbury, Mass.) in 1684.

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