Richard le Constable/William le Constable?

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Rob Lynley

Richard le Constable/William le Constable?

Legg inn av Rob Lynley » 11 okt 2004 19:15:34

Hello David, John

Percy Cartulary

MXCVIII (folio 179)

'En Nafferton sount ix carues de terre qe fount un de fee de
chivalier; dount Laurence le Fuitz Eleyn tient domi carue, Roger de
Petthou domi carue, Nichol Wyrring ij boves,William le fuitz Herberd
ij boves, Geffrey Haleouys j bove, Roger Pynchuare domi carue, John le
Prestre j bove, William le Constable domi carue, Richard son frer v
carues et domi'.

According to the Percy Cartulary, Richard le Constable is the brother
of William le Constable and not son.


There are other deeds in the Cartulary involving the lands at
Nafferton and William le Constable de Fleinburg is mentioned as the
holder so Richard must be te brother of this William.

I am becoming abit confused about the relationships between the
Constables of Holderness and Flamborough? John, are you sure that
these are two separate families?

In the Bridlington Cartulary there are deeds relating to Little Kelke
which was in the manor of Foston. In the deeds, Dom. Simon le
Constable is a witness along with many men from the Halsham area, John
of Ottringham for one. Why would Simon be called Dom. (Lord?) and be
witnessing grants at Foston manor if he was not part of the Constable
family holding the lands at Nafferton, Foston, the Constables of
Flamborough? Also Nafferton and Foston bound the manor of Kilham which
William le Constable of Halsham received in 1227.


Fulk le Constable held lands at Flotemanby. Flotemanby does not exist
today but was in the manor of Folkton near Scarborough, North
Yorkshire. Members of the Constables of Halsham held land many miles
from Holderness.


John, can you just clarify a point that you made? You said that the
marriage of William and Cecily de Tweng in 1227 accounts for Marmeduke
entering the Constable line. I have looked at the tree you posted but
where is Marmeduke in the Halsham Constable line? If the Marmeduke is
in the Flamborough line it either cannot have been because of marriage
into the Twengs if you say that the Flamborough family is separate to
the Halsham family?

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