Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser

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Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser

Legg inn av Brad Verity » 24 sep 2004 08:27:17

I've been trying to figure out the identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh
le Despenser, of Colyweston, co. Northampton and Solihull, co.
Warwickshire (b. about 1355, d. 12 Dec. 1399), only son of Hugh le
Despenser (grandson of Eleanor de Clare) and Anne de Hotham.

Sybil was married to Hugh by Sept. 1388 (Cal. Close Rolls, 1388, p.
614), and died 16 Aug. 1415 (Cal. Inq. Misc., 1416, p. 293). But her
parentage is not stated in either Chancery entry.

The key to her identity may be the manor of Everton, Bedfordshire. In
the Bedford IPM for Richard Talbot, knight, taken at Schefford, 26
April 1397, he was found for Everton, to have held "two-thirds of a
knight's fee, held by Hugh Spencer and Sybil his wife as of Sybil's
right, and a third part of a fee, held by the prior of St Neots."

It turns out the Everton manor held by the Talbots was Everton
Mosbury, and a website on Everton gives the following information:

http://members.aol.com/fquirk202/page43.html

"The overlordship passed from the Pembrokes to the Talbots. The first
mention is in 1322 when it was held by Richard Talbot. (Chan. Inq.
p.m. 5 Edw. III (2nd Nos.), No. 24) The abbot of Stratford Landthorne
conveyed a lease that year to John Morice and his wife Agnes. Eleven
years later he received a grant of free warren in his demesne lands in
Everton. In 1346 John was holding it as two parts of a fee. (Feud.
Aids, i. pp. 19,23) Sixteen years later, now a knight, Sir John Morice
enfeoffed John Colyn, the vicar of Everton, of the manor to the use of
William de Weston, master of St. Leonard's in Bedford. Ten years later
William transferred it in fee simple to Thomas de Dale or Fulthorpe.
In return he promised to pay St Leonard's Church £20 per year. (Chan.
Inq. p.m. 46 Edw. III No. 38; Wrottesley, Pedigrees from the Plea R..
p.465)

"Between 1418 - 19 Manorial courts were held by John Martyn, Hugh
Lotrell and others as trustees for one of the Fulthorpes. (Harl.
Chart. E. 16; Chan. Inq. p.m. 8 Hen. V, No. 127) In 1428 Thomas
Fulthorpe rendered service for two parts of a half-fee in Everton
‘formerly held by John Morice.' (Feud. Aids, vol.i. p.37) From this
time until the death of William Dale in 1537 it followed the same
descent as Little Barford (FIND!!). After 1537 it was still held by
the Talbots, the earls of Shrewsbury. (Feud. Aids, vol.i, pp.23,37;
Chan. Inq. p.m. 8 Hen. V, No. 127; Ibid. (Ser. 2), lvii, No. 48)"

I need to check the Victoria County History Bedfordshire, Vol. 2,
which covers the manors of Everton, but from the above it would appear
Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser, may have been a Morice or a
Fulthorpe (the ownership of the manor is not quite clear to me from
the above). I cannot see how the two-thirds knight's fee would have
been hers by right in 1397 if she wasn't related to either Sir John
Morice or Thomas Fulthorpe.

If anyone knows anything further about Sir John Morice or the
Fulthorpes, I'd appreciate hearing of it.

Cheers, --------Brad

Terry

Re: Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser

Legg inn av Terry » 24 sep 2004 18:27:29

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Verity" <batruth@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:27 AM
Subject: Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser


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The key to her identity may be the manor of Everton, Bedfordshire. In
the Bedford IPM for Richard Talbot, knight, taken at Schefford, 26
April 1397, he was found for Everton, to have held "two-thirds of a
knight's fee, held by Hugh Spencer and Sybil his wife as of Sybil's
right, and a third part of a fee, held by the prior of St Neots."

snip


Did the information realy refer to Hugh as "Spencer"
Thanks
Terry
Cheers, --------Brad


Brad Verity

Re: Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser

Legg inn av Brad Verity » 24 sep 2004 22:59:52

terry@mairsphotography.com ("Terry") wrote in message news:

Did the information realy refer to Hugh as "Spencer"

Dear Terry,

Yes, it did. 'Spencer/Spenser' was sometimes interchanged in
14th-century records with 'Despenser'.

Cheers,

---Brad

Terry

Re: Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser

Legg inn av Terry » 25 sep 2004 07:38:42

So it is possible that a Spencer family could have started as a Despencer
family!
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Verity" <batruth@hotmail.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Identity of Sybil, wife of Sir Hugh le Despenser


terry@mairsphotography.com ("Terry") wrote in message news:

Did the information realy refer to Hugh as "Spencer"

Dear Terry,

Yes, it did. 'Spencer/Spenser' was sometimes interchanged in
14th-century records with 'Despenser'.

Cheers,

---Brad



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