Edward Stradling's Alleged Illegitimate Children

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Daniel MacGregor

Edward Stradling's Alleged Illegitimate Children

Legg inn av Daniel MacGregor » 16 aug 2004 19:21:49

Have been following the discussion of the offspring of Sir Edward
Stradling (d. 1452).

In 1990, I began work on the ancestry of the actress Glenn Close as a
follow-up to the work that I did on the ancestry of her cousin, Brooke
Shields.

Through her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Taliaferro, the second
Mrs. Edward Bennett Close, Close descends (among others) from Col.
Thomas Ligon of Virginia who, in turn, descends from Edward Stradling
(d. 1452).

And so does TV journalist "Cokie" Roberts (through her father), as
well as my eighth cousin, twice removed (in a different line), Gary
Boyd Roberts.

At the time I initially uncovered this information, there was a
question of the legitimacy of Joan (or Katherine) Stradling, wife of
Maurice Dennis, hence my interest in this recent discussion.

In an effort to "separate the notes from the noise," do I have this
basic information straight?

(1) There has been a longstanding mix-up between Sir Edward Stradling
(d. 1452) and Sir Edward Stradling (d. 1535); resulting in

(2) A mistaken assignment of the illegitimate children of the
great-grandson to his great-grandfather; and that

(3) Joan (or Katherine) Stradling, wife of Maurice Dennis, ancestor of
Col. Thomas Ligon of Virginia is the legitimate daughter of Sir Edward
Stradling and his wife Joan, illegitimate daughter of Henry, Cardinal
Beaufort.

Or did I miss something?

Daniel MacGregor

M.Delano Warner

Re: Edward Stradling's Alleged Illegitimate Children

Legg inn av M.Delano Warner » 17 aug 2004 20:05:45

I too have been following this line.

Please look at:
The publications of The Harleian Soiety, New Series, Vol 14.
The Visitations of the Heralds in Wales, Published 1996
Page 50, Visitation pedigree 19.
Title: Stradling of St. Donats
Start:
[H 12; V 111; F 19]
Sir. Edward Stradling [H]
Arms: Paly of six Ar and Az, on a bend Gu three roses Or.

Sir. Edwarde Stradling, Knight [1] maryed Elysabeth, doughter to
Thomas Arundell[2b], of Cornewaile, and had yssue Thomas [3], who
maried Katheryne doughter to Sir. Thomas Gamage [4], and Robert [5]
maryed to Dennyse doughter to Watkyn Lowghter [6], who had issue [c]
Harry, John and Edwarde.


Notes and Sources:
(See ?? = See pedigree ?? in this book.)


1: Son of Thomas (d. 1480), b. c.1472; d. 8 May 1535 (IPM, PRO,
C142/57, no. 68.) Knighted 25 Sept. 1513 at Tournai, ( Knighted Welsh
Landowners", P. 292. Will proved 9 Feb. 1535/6, PCC 32 Hogen. See 11
[15] and Ballard, 108. As well as two sons given here he had two more
sones, Henry and Edward and two daughters, and a large number of
illegitimate children.

2: Of Lanherne, Cornwall, (Pedigree of J.L. Vivian, The Visitations of
Cornwall (Exeter, 1887), page 5). Elizabeth d. c. 1513 at Merthyr
Mawr. Marriage confirmed in Husbands IPM>

3: Sir. Thomas's will proved 4 May 1571, PCC 21 Holney. He was aged 30
at fathers death.

4: Lord of Coety, d. 1543. See 33. Sir. Thomas (2) m. Joyce dau. of
Sir. Richard Croft. (WG 2, Gamage 2).

5: Of Merthyr Mawr, GLA

6: Of tythegston, GLA (WG 2, lestn 7 (C2)).

I hope this muddies the water a little!! Just kidding. I will be glad
to look up these other pedigrees as sited should one need them.

Michael D. Warner








dmaqgregor@hotmail.com (Daniel MacGregor) wrote in message news:<47114b80.0408160921.41ebf812@posting.google.com>...
Have been following the discussion of the offspring of Sir Edward
Stradling (d. 1452).

In 1990, I began work on the ancestry of the actress Glenn Close as a
follow-up to the work that I did on the ancestry of her cousin, Brooke
Shields.

Through her paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Taliaferro, the second
Mrs. Edward Bennett Close, Close descends (among others) from Col.
Thomas Ligon of Virginia who, in turn, descends from Edward Stradling
(d. 1452).

And so does TV journalist "Cokie" Roberts (through her father), as
well as my eighth cousin, twice removed (in a different line), Gary
Boyd Roberts.

At the time I initially uncovered this information, there was a
question of the legitimacy of Joan (or Katherine) Stradling, wife of
Maurice Dennis, hence my interest in this recent discussion.

In an effort to "separate the notes from the noise," do I have this
basic information straight?

(1) There has been a longstanding mix-up between Sir Edward Stradling
(d. 1452) and Sir Edward Stradling (d. 1535); resulting in

(2) A mistaken assignment of the illegitimate children of the
great-grandson to his great-grandfather; and that

(3) Joan (or Katherine) Stradling, wife of Maurice Dennis, ancestor of
Col. Thomas Ligon of Virginia is the legitimate daughter of Sir Edward
Stradling and his wife Joan, illegitimate daughter of Henry, Cardinal
Beaufort.

Or did I miss something?

Daniel MacGregor

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