What an extraordinary project, and what results!
For my own interest I've just looked to see how many descents I have, and if
my programme is to be trusted (PAF) it seems I have 20 and my children
apparently have 99. I've never taken much notice of the facility in my
Relationships Calculator before, which counts how many descents one has from
a particular person, but I will certainly take more notice in future - it's
fascinating.
May I take this opportunity to wish everyone on Gen-Med a very happy
Christmas (or whatever) and great ancestor-hunting success in the New Year.
Merilyn Pedrick
Aldgate, South Australia
-------Original Message-------
From: Leo van de Pas
Date: 12/23/06 18:14:50
To: WJhonson@aol.com
Cc: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Royal descents
Dear Will,
What a horrendous question.
I have just finished a project (with Ian Fettes) which gives lines of
descent from Geoffrey V of Anjou.
For the selected people only the shortest (according to the ancestor list
system) is given but by the person (there are 360 of these) is given the
number of descent from Geoffrey V -----which means according to my data
base. I already know that for some there are many more.
Here a few examples
Juan Carlos King of Spain 1938- ----------------------------------1,399,295
times
Margarethe II Queen of Denmark 1940- --------------------------1,159,191
times
Carl XVI Gustaf King of Sweden 1946- --------------------------1,082,798
times
Dr. Otto von Habsburg 1912- ------------------------------------1,021,554
times
Constantine II King of Greece 1940- ---------------------998,901 times
Michael I King of Roumania 1921- ------------------------949,927 times
Harald V King of Norway 1937- --------------------------787,447 times
Albert II King of the Belgians 1934- -----------------------683,844 times
Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh 1921- ----------------518,591 times
Beatrix Queen of The Netherlands, 1938- ----------------489,240 times
Umberto II, King of Italy 1904-1983----------------------407,117 times
Elizabeth II Queen of Great Britain 1926- ----------------297,840 times
Sarah Ferguson 1959- ----------------------------66,985 times
Albert II Prince of Monaco 1958- ----------------53,480 times
Lady Diana Spencer 1961-1997 -----------------41,466 times
Rachel Ward 1957- ------------------------------39,773 times
Peter de Loriol 1954- ---------------------------26,287 times
Jane Birkin 1946- --------------------------------25,496 times
Cayetana, Duchess of Alba 1926- ---------------24,944 times
David Cameron 1966- --------------------------24,876 (Britain's next PM?)
Lady Antonia Fraser 1932- ---------------------17,711 times (author and
historian)
Gottfried von Einem 1918-1996------------------16,171 times (composer)
Leka I of Albania 1939- -------------------------14,554 times
Brooke Shields 1965- ---------------------------12,337 times
Mathilde d'Udeken d'Acoz 1973- ------------------------8,471 times
Elizabeth the Queen Mother 1900-2002 ------------------7,957 times
Camilla Parker-Bowles 1947- ---------------------------7,762 times
Manfred von Richthofen 1892-1918 ----------------------7,219 times (the Red
Baron)
Count Fritz Szapary 1869-1935---------------------------6,232 times
Don Scipione Borghese 1871-1927 -----------------------6,112 times (Peking
to Paris)
Aga Khan IV 1936- --------------------------------------4,193 times
Finn Holbek 1958- -------------------------------------- 2,898 times
Guy Ritchie 1968- ----------------------------------------1,915 times
(married to Madonna)
Hugh Grant 1960- ----------------------------------------1,842 times
(actor)
Simon Fairthorne 1941- ----------------------------------1,648 times
Bertha von Suttner 1843-1914 ---------------------------1,343 times (Nobel
prize winner)
Fridtjof Nansen 1861-1930 ------------------------------1,109 times
Tim Powys-Lybbe 1938- ---------------------899 times
Wernher von Braun 1912-1977 ---------------752 times
John Steele Gordon 1944- --------------------605 times
Ian Fettes 1945- ------------------------------576 times
James Smithson 1765-1829 -------------------436 times
....................have been told he has many more
Clifton James 1897- ---------------------------340 times (during WW II was
Monty's double)
Ralph Vaughan Williams 1872-1958 -----------314 times (composer)
Audrey Hepburn 1929-1993 ------------------212 times
Sophie Rhys-Jones 1965- ---------------------204 times
Tony Hoskins 1948- --------------------------179 times
George Walker Bush 1946- ------------------115 times
Gary Boyd Roberts 1943 --------------------102 times
Gilbert von Studnitz 1950- -------------99 times
Rob Roy McGregor 1671-1734 -------95 times
John Ravilious 1954- -----------------90 times
Graham Greene 1904-1991 ------------89 times
Sir Francis Chichester 1901-1972 -------85 times
George Washington 1732-1799 ---------84 times
Valery Giscard d'Estaing 1926- --------84 times
Baron Pierre de Coubertin 1863-1937 ---68 times (reviver of the Olympic
games)
Meriwether Lewis 1774-1809 ----------67 times
David Starr Jordan 1851-1931 ---------67 times
Pope Benedict XIII 1649-1730 ---------60 times
the Marquis de Sade 1740-1814 --------57 times
Calvin Coolidge 1872-1933 ------------46 times (USA president)
Uma Thurman 1970- ------------------45 times
Kate Middleton 1982- ------------------44 times
Werner von Blomberg 1878-1946------39 times
Josephine de Beauharnais 1763-1814----28 times
Doug McDonald 1944- -----------------28 times
William Addams Reitwiesner 1954- -----26 times
Tom Hanks 1956- ----------------------9 times
Marcus Schenkenberg 1968- -----------8 times
Benjamin Harrison 1833-1901 ---------8 times (USA president)
George Andrews Moriarty 1883-1968 ------8 times
Jacques Lucien Monod 1910-1976 -----7 times (Nobel prize winner)
Prince Henrik of Denmark 1934- ------6 times
Donald Lines Jacobus 1887-1970 -------4 times
Arfturo Beeche 1965- -----------------4 times
Grant Menzies 1964- ------------------3 times
Michael Andrews-Reading 1968- -------2 times
Hermann Goering 1893-1946 ----------2 times
You ask about Edward III but the best person to ask is Ian Fettes, but I
doubt that he is able to say who has the most, because that is really a kind
of guessing.............who had thought that Jane Birkin had so many lines
to Geoffrey V of Anjou?
Hope this is of interest.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: <WJhonson@aol.com>
To: <GEN-MEDIEVAL@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Royal descents
I just finished a project today where I found that my target person has no
less than seven seperate ascents to Richard Cecil.
That made me wonder if there have been studies to try to find the "most
common ancestor" of the titled class, or alternatively if there are
members of the
titled class for which every great-great-greatparent ascends to say Edward
III
or something like that.
That's not very clear is it?
I've heard that practically every European has an ascent to Charlemagne,
but
what person has the most ascents to Edward III (for example)? On this
list
there have been postings in the past showing that Prince Charles has a
lot, but
does he have the most ?
Will Johnson
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