Dear James,
Unfortunately, while the theory you mentioned would neatly
provide the families with a common (if not Comyn) origin, the two
Waltheofs had two different careers and families; I've seen no
documentation that would point to any equation between the two.
I might also add, Allerdale can be found in Cumberland, while
Tynedale is well east of there in southern Northumberland. Not
that geography is the ultimate bar to genealogical connections...
Following is what I have at present re: Waltheof of Allerdale
and his immediate relations (does not show his half-siblings, such
as Uhtred of Raby and Gospatric of Dunbar). Should you note any
errors or have any further documentation, please advise.
Cheers,
John *
1 Gospatric of Northumbria
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Death: 1075[1]
Occ: earl of Northumbria 1068 - 1072
Father: Maldred of Cumbria
Mother: Ealdgyth of Northumbria
Earl of March (Dunbar) 1072-1075
lord of Allerdale, Cumbs.
' When [Osulf] was dead, Gospatric, son of Maldred, Crinan's son, went to
king William and obtained the earldom of Northumbria, bought for much
money.
For the honour of that earldom pertained to him by his mother's right.
For his mother was Aldgitha, the daughter of earl Utred, who had her by
Elfgiva, daughter of king Ethelred.
This Aldgitha her father gave in marriage to Maldred, son of Crinan.
And [Gospatric] held the earldom until, for the reasons aforesaid,
the king took it from him. Therefore he fled to Malcolm, and not
long afterwards went by ship to Flanders. And when after some time
he returned to Scotland, the aforesaid king [Malcolm] granted to him
Dunbar, with the lands adjacent to it in Lothian, that by these he
should provide for himself and his men until happier times returned.
This Gospatric was the father of Dolfin, Waldeve and
Gospatric. ' [Symeon of Durham, Historia Regum, II:199 as given in
Anderson, p. 96[2]]
' Gospatrik ', gave writ declaring that Thorfynn mac Thore shall be
free in respect of all things that are Gospatric's in Allerdale,
Cumberland, and that the men dwelling with Thorfynn at Cardew and
Cumdivock shall be free, dated 1041 x 1064. MSS. Earl of Lonsdale,
Lowther Castle, muniment room (s. xiii; Liebermann 1903, facing
p. 280; Ragg 1917, facing p. 207; PN Cumb., iii, facing p. xxvi)[3]
re: his wife:
' she had a brother, Edmund or Eadmund, to whose lands her son
Gospatric obtained a right from King Henry I.' [ SP III:243[4]]
cf. Barlow, Edward the Confessor[5]
SP III:245 [Earls of Dunbar[4]]
Spouse: NN (1st or only wife) [6]
Children: Waltheof (Waldeve) (->1125)
Ethelreda, m. Duncan II, King of Scots
Others: NN (not married)
1.1a Waltheof (Waldeve) of Dunbar*
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Death: aft 1125
Occ: lord of Allerdale
lord of Papcastle (Allerdale below Derwent), Cumberland
'In the reign of Henry I Waldeve held a small part
of Egremont from William le Meschin. This later
became the honour of Cockermouth' (Sanders, p. 134)[1]
cf. SP III:243-4[4]
Spouse: NN
Children: Gunnhild
Alan (->1139)
Uhtreda
Others: NN (not married)
1.1a.1 Gunnhild of Allerdale
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cf. SP III:245[4]
Spouse: Uhtred, Lord of Galloway
Death: 22 Sep 1174, Galloway (murdered)[4]
Father: Fergus of Galloway (ca1096-1161)
Mother: NN
Children: Roland, Lord of Galloway (-1200)
Eve (-1217), m. 1) Walter de Berkeley,
2) Robert de Quincy
Dervorguilla, m. Laurence de Abernethy
Fergus (->1212)
1.1a.2 Alan of Allerdale
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Death: aft 1139[1]
lord of Papcastle (Allerdale below Derwent), Cumberland
witness (together with his brother Gospatric) to a charter of King
David of Scots, 16 Aug 1139 [SP III:244, cites Raine's North
Durham, Ap. Nos. xix, xx[4]]
Papcastle was given after his death to cousin William fitz Duncan
(bef. 1154) -Sanders, p. 134[1]
cf. Bain II:15-17[6]
1.1a.3 Uhtreda of Allerdale
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' Blennerhasset and Uckmanby. Was parcel of Allerdale, which
Alan fitz Waldeof gave unto Randulph de Lindsey with ye
sister of ye said Alan named Ochtreda in free marriage.'
[Linzee p. 248[7] ]
cf. SP III:245[4]
Spouse: Ranulf de Lindsay
1.1b Waltheof (Waldeve) of Dunbar* (See above)
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Other: NN (not married) [6]
Children: Gospatric
1.1b.1 Gospatric of Dunbar
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of Bolton, Bassenthwaite and Derwentwater, co. Cumbs.[4]
illegitimate son [Bain II:16[6]]
witness (together with his brother Alan) to a charter of King David
of Scots, 16 Aug 1139 [SP III:244, cites Raine's North Durham,
Ap. Nos. xix, xx[4]]
Children: Waldeve of Bolton and Bassenthwaite
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. Alan O. Anderson, "Scottish Annals from English Chroniclers,
A.D. 500 to 1286," London: David Nutt, 1908.
3. "Anglo-Saxons.net," website by Sean Miller,
http://www.anglo-saxons.net/hwaet/?do=g ... ter&id=744 charter of King Edgar, 966,
http://www.anglo-saxons.net/hwaet/?do=g ... ter&id=811 charter of King Edgar to his grandmother Eadgifu, 959 x 963.
4. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage," Edinburgh:
David Douglas, 1904-1914 (9 volumes).
5. Frank Barlow, "Edward the Confessor," University of California
Press, 1970, [English Monarchs Series], cites King Harald's Saga,
cap. 45-50, re: the career of Jarl Haakon Ivarsson.
6. Joseph Bain, ed., "Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland,"
Edinburgh: Her Majesty's General Register House, 1881 (Vol. I),
full title: Calendar of Documents relating to Scotland, Preserved
in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London.
7. John William Linzee, "The Lindeseie and Limesi families of Great
Britain," Boston, Mass.: privately published, 1917, .pdf image
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* John P. Ravilious