Thursday, 17 August, 2006
Dear Will,
While not meaning to 'mess up' anyone's charts, I am fairly
certain that Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (d. 1420) was born
before dispensation for his parents' marriage, which occurred
before 12 Oct 1344 [1]. It is all the more interesting as there
was a charter of his uncle, Sir William the 'Knight of Liddesdale'
dated at Dalkeith, 14 Dec 1351, granting to the young James the
lands of Aberdower, witnessed by Sir William's uncle Andrew de
Douglas and his natural brother William de Douglas 'Andrea de
Douglas avunculo meo, Willielmo de Douglas seniore fratre meo')[2].
What then to make of Sir James' birth year......?
As to the Caldecot (or de Caldecotis) family, below is my
current reconstruction. There are of course uncertainties:
assuming for example that Marion (or Mariota) de Crawford was
the mother of Elena de Caldecotis, we don't know that she was
also the mother of William. If we can learn more about 'Hutone'
(or "Hutton under the Moor") in Dumfriesshire, this might be
resolved, as well as the Crawford family involved (my current
guess would be Crawford of Auchinames).
Cheers,
John *
NOTES [to post]:
[1] This, previously cited is from Bliss, Calendar of
Papal Letters III:165
" 1344.
4 Id. Oct. To the bishop of St. Andrews. Faculty to
Avignon. grant dispensation to John de Duglas, knight,
(f. 140d.) and Agnes de Grame to intermarry, they having
lived together and had offspring, notwithstanding
the assertion made that Agnes was aunt of a woman
with whom John had cohabited, Agnes being
ignorant of the said impediment. A penance is to
be enjoined on John, and two chaplaincies of 10
marks each are to be founded within two years.
Their past and future offspring is to be
declared legitimate.
[Cal. Pet. i.79; Theiner, 282.] "
[2] The Prose Works of Sir Walter Scott, VII:219. This can be
viewed at the following URL:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=0Xeyp ... &pg=PA219&lpg=PA219&dq=andrea+douglas+avunculo&ie=ISO-8859-1
1 John de Caldcotis
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Death: aft 1387[1]
of Graden and Simprim, co. Berwicks. and Hutton, co. Dumfries.
heraldic seal of John de Caldecotis:
' CALDECOTE, John, of Grayden and Sympryne (Berwickshire). A shield
of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops.
Legend (l.c.): S IOHANNIS [DE] CALDCOTYS. Diam 7/8 in.
Laing, ii. 157. Reg. Ho. Ch., No. 193, c. 1387-8 - Cast;
No. 194, c. A.D. 1388 - Cast. ' [Stevenson, II:268[1]]
' John de Caldicotis, lord of Hutton under the Moor ', as styled by
Cameron Smith concerning his daughter Elena:
" There is however a charter preserved in HM Register House which
mentions the late William de Boys, lord of Hallathys in Annandale under
the year 1379. His spouse, who had survived him, was Elena de
Caldicotis, daughter of John de Caldicotis, lord of Hutton under the
Moor. her mother was Mariota (Marion) de Crawford, daughter of the
late Thomas de Crawford, Elena's grandfather on the mother's side.
" The lands had been destined to the heirs of Elena's marriage, but
these rights she then resigned at the date mentioned, so presumably the
lands remained with the Caldicoties family or their assignees. (There
is no evidence that the lord of Halleaths had left any heir by his
marriage with Elena.)" [Alex Maxwell Findlater, <Caldecotis>[2]]
__________________________
possibly a descendant of ' Caldecote, Geffrey de (del counte de
Edenburgh).' - swore allegiance to King Edward I at Berwick,
1296 [Ragman Roll[3] ]
~ 'Galfrid of Caldcote', one of the auditors for Robert de Brus in
his claim to the Scots throne, 2 June 1292 [Crawfurd, p. 20[4]]
Spouse: Marion de Crawford
Father: Thomas de Crawford (possibly of Auchinames)
Children: Elena
William (-<1424)
1.1 Elena de Caldcotis
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Concerning Elena de Caldcotis and her family, she was identified
by Cameron Smith as
" Elena de Caldicotis, daughter of John de Caldicotis, lord of
Hutton under the Moor. " [Alex Maxwell Findlater, <Caldecotis>[2]]
Spouse: William de Boys
Death: ca 1379[2]
Marr: bef 1379[2]
1.2 William de Caldcotis
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Death: bef 6 Jan 1424[1]
of Graden and Simprim, co. Berwicks. and Hutton, co. Dumfries.
' our dear William de Caldcotis and Christiana, his dear wife '
[" dilect(' n'ris Will'o de Caldcot(' 't cristiane dilce spo[n]se
sue "], had charter from James Douglas, lord of Dalkeith [her
grandfather, not so identified] of the lands of Hutone in Annandale,
witnessed by Sir Henry Douglas (brother of Sir James), John
Livingston of Callendar and others, dated at Dalkeith,
8 May 1388 [Reg. Honoris de Morton II:164-5, no. 187[5]]
he evidently d. before 6 Jan 1424/5 [his wife identified as
' Caldecote, Christiana, widow of William Caldecote ' in a charter
of that date - Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[1]]
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re: his wife:
' Kyrstiane de Caldcottis ', her heraldic seal is identified on a
charter of 8 Jan. 1424-5:
' Caldecote, Christiana, widow of William Caldecote, daughter of
Walter Twedy. A shield of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter
charged with a star in dexter and two escallops. Legend (l.c.):
KYRSTIANE DE CALDCOTTIS. Diam. 1 3/16 in. Laing, ii. 158.
Reg. Ho. Ch., 6 Jan. 1424-5, two of same date - Cast. ' [Scottish
Heraldic Seals, II:268[1]]
Spouse: Christiana Tweedie
Death: aft 6 Jan 1424[1]
Father: Walter Tweedie, of Drumelzier
Mother: NN Douglas
Marr: bef 8 May 1388[5]
Children: Elizabeth (->1459)
1.2.1 Elizabeth de Caldcotis
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Death: aft 8 Nov 1459[1]
had a third of the lands of Graden, co. Berwicks. as her maritagium
or inheritance[6]
' dilecti filii nobilis viri Willelmi de Leuynston Domicelli et delict
in Christo filie nobilis mulieris Elisabeth de Caldcotis Domicelle',
postnuptial dispensation granted 12 Nov 1421, they being related in
the 3rd degree of consanguinity ["tertio consanguinitatis
gradu" - Stuart p. 453[7]]
her heraldic seal is identified on a charter of 8 Nov. 1459:
' Caldecote, Elizabeth, daughter of William Caldecote of Grayden,
wife of William Livingston of Balcastel (or of Kilsyth). A shield
of arms: A saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops.
Foliage at top and sides of shield. Legend (l.c.): S ELISABETH DE
LEVINGSTON. Diam. 1 1/16 in. Laing, ii. 159. Reg. Ho. Ch., No.
357 (2), 8 Nov. 1459 - Cast. ' [Scottish Heraldic Seals, II:268[1]]
her arms according to E. Livingston:
' a saltire and chief, the latter charged with three escallops'
[Livingston, citing seal in Laing, ii. 159][6]
Spouse: William Livingston of Balcastell and Kilsyth
Death: bef 20 Apr 1460[8],[6]
Father: Sir John Livingston of Callendar(-1402)
Mother: Agnes Douglas (->1421)
Marr: bef 12 Nov 1421[6],[7]
Children: Edward (-<1482)
William (->1481)
Alexander
1. John Horne Stevenson, K.C. and Marguerite Wood, Ph.D., Scottish
Heraldic Seals: Royal, Official, Ecclesiastical, Collegiate, Burghal,
Personal, Glasgow: printed by Robert MacLehose & Coy., Limited at the
University Press, 1940 (Vol. II).
2. Alex Maxwell Findlater, "Caldecotis," 20 June 2006,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Cameron Smith, Trans Dumfries &
Galloway etc Vol XXIII, 1940-44, p 77, article on Boys, and other
sources.
3. "Clan Stirling,"
http://www.clanstirling.org/uploads/ragmanrolls.pdf provides .pdf file of the names of those who swore allegiance to
Edward I of England at Berwick, 1296 (the 'Ragman Rolls').
4. George Crawfurd, "The History of the Shire of Renfrew," Paisley:
Printed and sold by Alex. Weir, 1782, (originally, Edinburgh :
Printed by James Watson, 1710), [also as cited by Burke; and Paisley
Herald article, F of Barrochan], ' containing a genealogical history
of the royal house of Stewart,..'.
5. Thomas Thomson, ed., "Registrum Honoris de Morton," Vol. II - Ancient
Charters, Edinburgh: J. Constable, for the Bannatyne Club, 1853, full
title: ' Registrum Honoris de Morton A series of Ancient Charters
of the Earldom of Morton with other Original Papers in Two Volumes ',
completed, with preface by Cosmo Innes.
6. Edwin Brockholst Livingston, "The Livingstons of Callendar and their
Principal Cadets: The history of an old Stirlingshire family,"
Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, 1920, .pdf images provided by
Genealogy.com,
http://www.genealogy.com/, re: the Livingstons of
Kilsyth (cf. Chapter IX, THE LIVINGSTONS, VISCOUNTS OF KILSYTH),
pp. 210 et seq.
7. Andrew Stuart, "Genealogical History of the Stewarts," : from the
earliest period of their authentic history to the present times,
London: Printed for A. Strahan, and T. Cadell Jun. and W. Davies,
in the Strand, 1798, .pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com
http://www.genealogy.com, includes texts of dispensations relevant to the
Stewart family.
8. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage," Edinburgh: David
Douglas, 1904-1914 (9 volumes).