Alfonso IX was only of Leon.
With the same (logically) reasoning, Elizabeth II is only Elizabeth I of
Scotland.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval,
alt.history.british,alt.talk.royalty
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: King Henry II-1/2 or King Henry IIB - which do you prefer?
Douglas Richardson wrote:
Dear Renia ~
This is so much faux-English waffle on your part.
I frequently use the "counting body" system. However, if you prefer
the other system (counting earls of various creations), you're
certainly welcome to do so. Neither of us would be wrong. That is
why Complete Peerage employs BOTH systems. Frankly, both counting
systems have serious flaws. By their nature, the two systems are
completely arbitrary. Neither system reflects contemporary medieval
practice.
Even the numbering of English kings has been screwed up. King Henry
II of England crowned his son, Henry, joint king. Thus "Young
Henry" (as he is called) should be counted as King Henry III. He was
considered as such by some contemporary chronicles, but he is not
considered such by "modern" minds today. So is he King Henry II-1/2?
or King Henry IIB? You can't say he wasn't king, because he was. Now
go figure.
It's hardly fair to blame Renia for this - the fault probably lies with
Henry V, if not Henry IV.
This is why I say modern numbering systems are arbitrary in nature.
OK - try this one: where, precisely, was Alfonso X the 10th Alfonso of?
--
John Briggs
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