Nicholas Poyntz rector of Cory Malet

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Nicholas Poyntz rector of Cory Malet

Legg inn av Gjest » 13 feb 2008 19:14:04

Does anyone know the minimum age for someone to be a rector/parson of a
church? in the Calendar of Patent Rolls (Edw II, volume 2, page 228) is the
following:
Commission of oyer and terminer to John de Foxle, John de Batesford
and William de Burne, on representation on behalf of John le Latymer, to
whom the custody of the manors of Stokwode [and] Batecumbe, co. Dorset, and of
Cury Malet, co. Somerset, late of Nicholas de Poynz, tenant in chief,
appertains, until Hugh son and heir of the said Nicholas de Poynz shall obtain his
full age, by reason of a demise made to him by William le Latymer, to whom the
king demised the said manors, that Nicholas de Poynz, parson of the church of
Cury Malet, John Bedel, John, parson of the church of Stokwode, and Hugh
Payn, together with others, ejected him from the said custody, the heir being
still a minor and in his custody, and carried away his goods found in the said
manors.
By the archbishop of Canterbury

I was under the impression that Nicholas Poyntz, the parson, was a brother
to Hugh Poyntz, (born about 1296), and son of the Nicholas Poyntz that died
about 1311. Unless a person can be a parson under the age of 21, (the parson
Nicholas would have been born after 1296), Parson Nicholas may be someone
else's son. I wonder if he is the same Nicholas that is listed as son of "Poncius
de la Launde Pennine" On this note, there is an Ashby de la Launde in
Lincolnshire that has a de la Launde family residing there in the 14th century
_GENUKI: Ashby de la Launde, LIN_
(http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/AshbydelaLaunde/) The pennine part may refer to the pennine mountains in
central England.
Any ideas on parson Nicholas, anyone??
There is also a William Poyntz in several CPM entries in 1309-1310, listed
as King's yeoman. He is not identified as who he is related to, or where he is
from. He is granted land in Lincolnshire and Somerset, that was taken from
Roland de Combar when he fled from justice. I can post the relevant links to
the entries if need, or a search for William Poyntz on the CPR site will pull
up all the entries

Ken



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Re: Nicholas Poyntz rector of Cory Malet

Legg inn av wjhonson » 13 feb 2008 23:12:04

On Feb 13, 10:09 am, KRothi...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know the minimum age for someone to be a  rector/parson of a
church? in the Calendar of Patent Rolls (Edw II, volume 2,  page 228) is the
following:
Commission of oyer and terminer to John de Foxle, John  de Batesford
and William de Burne, on representation on behalf of John le  Latymer, to
whom the custody of the manors of Stokwode [and] Batecumbe, co.  Dorset, and of
Cury Malet, co. Somerset, late of Nicholas de Poynz, tenant in  chief,
appertains, until Hugh son and heir of the said Nicholas de Poynz shall  obtain his
full age, by reason of a demise made to him by William le Latymer, to  whom the
king demised the said manors, that Nicholas de Poynz, parson of  the church of
Cury Malet, John Bedel, John, parson of the church of Stokwode,  and Hugh
Payn, together with others, ejected him from the said custody, the heir  being
still a minor and in his custody, and carried away his goods found in the  said
manors.
By the archbishop of Canterbury

I was under the impression that Nicholas Poyntz, the  parson, was a brother
to Hugh Poyntz, (born about 1296), and son of the Nicholas  Poyntz that died
about 1311. Unless a person can be a parson under the age of  21, (the parson
Nicholas would have been born after 1296), Parson Nicholas may  be someone
else's son. I wonder if he is the same Nicholas that is listed as son  of "Poncius
de la Launde Pennine"  On this note, there is an Ashby de la  Launde in
Lincolnshire that has a de la Launde family residing there in the 14th  century
_GENUKI:  Ashby de la Launde, LIN_
(http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/AshbydelaLaunde/)   The pennine part may  refer to the pennine mountains in
central England.
Any ideas on parson Nicholas,  anyone??

Yes there was *a* Nicholas who was Hugh's brother, but he was not the
only Nicholas Poyntz then running about, as you've alluded to above.

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