Was Agnes Sorel ever in Naples ?

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Leo van de Pas

Was Agnes Sorel ever in Naples ?

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 23 jan 2008 07:31:36

The life of Agnes Sorel is affected by many people and perhaps by looking at it we can learn about when did she become the mistress of Charles VII

At the moment I have

Jean Soreau/Sorel, Seigneur de Coudun, died about 1446, married to Catherine de Magnelais, daughter of Raoul II and ???
they had four sons and one daughter, the sons were Andre, Charles, Jean, Louis

the daughter Agnes Sorel was born abput 1422 Chateau Fromenteau, Touraine

As her mother apparently died when she was young, she was brought up by an aunt, but then "in the early 1440s" joined the court of Isabella duchess of Lorraine and Rene of Anjou. She is recorded as being at the court of Rene when she was spotted by Charles VII. But when was that?
I have recorded a few dates for King Rene and somwhere sometime Agnes Sorel appeared..

2 July 1431 Rene was captured by Antoine de Vaudemont who hands him over to the duke of Burgundy who imprisons him, he is released at one point but as he cannot pay the ransome he returns to Burgundian imprisonment

in 1435 still imprisoned he succeeds as king of Naples, as he is imprisoned his wife is crowned Queen of Naples and she goes there

1437 Rene at last is free and goes to Naples where he arrives 18 May 1438

2 June 1442 Rene is decisively defeated and leaves Naples to return to France, I presume his wife went with him

This gives Agnes, if she didn't go to Naples (and I do not think she did) very little time with Isabellle de Lorraine and Rene d'Anjou

This seem to make "early 1440s" 1442 and in 1443 she catches the eye of the king and in 1444 is recorded as the king's mistress.

Would anyone be able to be more precise?


With many thanks,
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia

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