Mary Tudor, Queen of France and Duchess of Suffolk

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Mary Tudor, Queen of France and Duchess of Suffolk

Legg inn av Rose » 03 des 2007 12:45:03

I have recently been watching the BBC 2s "The Tudors" and find the
whole series unbelievable in the fact Mary Tudor is referred to both
in the programme and on the 'official' Tudors website and BBCs web
site as MARGARET TUDOR.

All my history books state that it was MARY TUDOR, youngest sister of
Henry VIII who married Louis X11 of France and, secretly Charles
Brandon, Duke of Suffolk and not Margaret Tudor. Margaret Tudor was
Henry's elder sister who married James IV of Scotland.

Am I missing something or has history just been rewitten for
television? Or I have I just 'lost the plot"? I do wish production
companies would at least get the characters right when they make these
programmes.

My apologies if I am wrong about Mary and Margaret Tudor.

Renia

Re: Mary Tudor, Queen of France and Duchess of Suffolk

Legg inn av Renia » 03 des 2007 15:59:53

Rose wrote:

I have recently been watching the BBC 2s "The Tudors" and find the
whole series unbelievable in the fact Mary Tudor is referred to both
in the programme and on the 'official' Tudors website and BBCs web
site as MARGARET TUDOR.

All my history books state that it was MARY TUDOR, youngest sister of
Henry VIII who married Louis X11 of France and, secretly Charles
Brandon, Duke of Suffolk and not Margaret Tudor. Margaret Tudor was
Henry's elder sister who married James IV of Scotland.

Am I missing something or has history just been rewitten for
television? Or I have I just 'lost the plot"? I do wish production
companies would at least get the characters right when they make these
programmes.

My apologies if I am wrong about Mary and Margaret Tudor.

It depends on the context as to who they are talkig about. I don't get
BBC here in Greece, so haven't seen the programme. I haven't found the
error on the BBC website, yet.

Henry VII had the two daughters, Margaret and Mary Tudor, as you say.

Margaret, the eldest, married James IV of Scotland, and was grandmother
to Mary, Queen of Scots.

Mary, the younger sister, as you say, married Louis XII of France, but
he died only a few months after their wedding. They had no children. She
then married Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, as you say. They were the
grandparents of the unfortunate Lady Jane Grey.

The daughter of Henry VIII, was also called Mary Tudor and she reigned
for five years after her father and brother's deaths.

Wikipedia says of the characters of The Tudors:

Q
The drama series The Tudors portrays Mary and Charles' relationship,
though the character is named Princess Margaret, and is a composite of
Mary and her sister Margaret Tudor, portrayed by Gabrielle Anwar.
Charles Brandon is portrayed by Henry Cavill. Many liberties have been
taken with the story such as Henry arranges her marriage with the aged
King of Portugal, not France, in the late 1520s, Margaret/Mary actually
kills her husband, and Charles is made Duke of Suffolk in order to be
able to give Margaret/Mary away at the wedding. Their marriage soon
cools and the series does not mention her three children by Brandon. It
also has her dying before Wolsey (who died in 1530).
UNQ

So, yes, "history has been rewritten for television". I'm glad I'm not
in the unfortunate position of having to watch this series.

Tim

Re: Mary Tudor, Queen of France and Duchess of Suffolk

Legg inn av Tim » 03 des 2007 23:01:06

On Dec 3, 9:59 am, Renia <re...@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:
Rose wrote:
I have recently been watching the BBC 2s "The Tudors" and find the
whole series unbelievable in the fact Mary Tudor is referred to both
in the programme and on the 'official' Tudors website and BBCs web
site as MARGARET TUDOR.

All my history books state that it was MARY TUDOR, youngest sister of
Henry VIII who married Louis X11 of France and, secretly Charles
Brandon, Duke of Suffolk and not Margaret Tudor. Margaret Tudor was
Henry's elder sister who married James IV of Scotland.

Am I missing something or has history just been rewitten for
television? Or I have I just 'lost the plot"? I do wish production
companies would at least get the characters right when they make these
programmes.

My apologies if I am wrong about Mary and Margaret Tudor.

It depends on the context as to who they are talkig about. I don't get
BBC here in Greece, so haven't seen the programme. I haven't found the
error on the BBC website, yet.

Henry VII had the two daughters, Margaret and Mary Tudor, as you say.

Margaret, the eldest, married James IV of Scotland, and was grandmother
to Mary, Queen of Scots.

Mary, the younger sister, as you say, married Louis XII of France, but
he died only a few months after their wedding. They had no children. She
then married Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, as you say. They were the
grandparents of the unfortunate Lady Jane Grey.

The daughter of Henry VIII, was also called Mary Tudor and she reigned
for five years after her father and brother's deaths.

Wikipedia says of the characters of The Tudors:

Q
The drama series The Tudors portrays Mary and Charles' relationship,
though the character is named Princess Margaret, and is a composite of
Mary and her sister Margaret Tudor, portrayed by Gabrielle Anwar.
Charles Brandon is portrayed by Henry Cavill. Many liberties have been
taken with the story such as Henry arranges her marriage with the aged
King of Portugal, not France, in the late 1520s, Margaret/Mary actually
kills her husband, and Charles is made Duke of Suffolk in order to be
able to give Margaret/Mary away at the wedding. Their marriage soon
cools and the series does not mention her three children by Brandon. It
also has her dying before Wolsey (who died in 1530).
UNQ

So, yes, "history has been rewritten for television". I'm glad I'm not
in the unfortunate position of having to watch this series.- Hide quoted text -

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'The Tudors' was as much a costumed soap-opera as anything else, and
there was just as much dramatized fiction as actual history in it
though it was mildly entertaining, in some places almost humorous,
such as Margaret/Mary's short marriage to the aged Portuguese king ,
who was hoping to get her with child, and which concluded with her
smothering him with a pillow. No idea why they had the king Portuguese
instead of French. I guess that the recent trend has been to
fictionalize historical films if it makes them more entertaining.
'Braveheart' and 'Elizabeth' did the same thing. These 2 films were
well-made filmwise, though, and they do convey the ambience and
grandeur of Scottish and English history, even if kids will now grow
up thinking that William Wallace was the father of Edward III and Sir
Francis Walsingham killed Mary of Guise.

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