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Legg inn av Gjest » 01 des 2007 20:35:04

A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list. We expect that
printed copies will be in the mail to subscribers by the end of this
month, but that may not happen till early January. Certainly no later.

DAVID L. GREENE, FASG
Coeditor and publisher
The American Genealogist [TAG]



The American Genealogist

Whole Number 326 April 2007 Vol. 82, No. 2
(published December 2007)


CONTENTS

THE PERRY FAMILY OF SAWBRIDGEWORTH, HERTFORDSHIRE:
Shared Ancestry of Six Massachusetts Immigrants: John1 Perry of
Roxbury,
Isaac1 Perry of Boston, Mary1 (Perry) Heath of Roxbury, Phebe1
(Perry)
Desborough of Roxbury, John1 Reddington of Topsfield, and Abraham1
Reddington of Topsfield and Boxford William Wyman Fiske 81

DEATH COMES TO THE HATTER 90

ASA BACON AND THE SHAKING QUAKERS: Bacon Migration (1644-1850):
Massachusetts-Connecticut-Massachusetts-New York-Indiana
Ronald A. Hill 91

THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF GENEALOGISTS' SCHOLAR AWARD
FOR 2008 106

THE ENGLISH ORIGIN OF THOMAS1 AND SARAH (SCOTT) GRAVE(S)
OF HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT, AND HADLEY, MASSACHUSETTS
Leslie Mahler 107

RYURIK AND THE FIRST RYURIKIDS: Context, Problems, Sources
(concluded)
Norman W. Ingham and Christian Raffensperger 111

GODLY MEN AND "IRREGULAR COURSES" 119

PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

ENIGMAS #23: Was Capt. Rufus Gardner of New London, Connecticut, a Son
of
Capt. Christopher Gardner of South Kingstown, Rhode Island?
(concluded)
Roger D. Joslyn 130

THE ENGLISH ORIGIN OF DANIEL1 KEMPSTER OF CAMBRIDGE,
MASSACHUSETTS Craig Partridge 142

A SHORT WIDOWHOOD Robert Battle 152

EDITORIAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: * * 153

BOOK REVIEWS see list inside back cover 154

John Brandon

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Legg inn av John Brandon » 01 des 2007 20:50:03

Alright David! I see my last tirade had salutary effects. Don't
mention it, happy to do it!

Nathaniel Taylor

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Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 01 des 2007 21:01:24

In article
<321176d4-926b-4f0c-82a6-05c996848719@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
amgen@alltel.net wrote:

A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list.

PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

I descend from Thomas Riggs in nine lines, so I am naturally very
interested in his proposed origin. To use another measure: my
grandfather (born 1896) descends from *five different children* of
Thomas and Mary (Millett) Riggs (all born from 1659 to 1682). 250 years
in an isolated coastal village (Annisquam, north coast of Cape Ann) will
do this routinely, I expect. Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

BTW Thomas Riggs's house is extant and can be stayed in as a B&B. No
discounts for descendants.

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

John Brandon

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Legg inn av John Brandon » 01 des 2007 21:16:02

do this routinely, I expect. Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

Either four or five children of Tristram and Denise (Stephens) Coffin,
but I can't match your Millett example.

jonmeltzer@gmail.com

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Legg inn av jonmeltzer@gmail.com » 01 des 2007 21:35:05

On Dec 1, 3:01 pm, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

My best is six lines from four children of Edward Gilman, with 4
consecutive generations back from (and including) my great-
grandparents with both spouses having Gilman descent.

AdrianBnjmBurke

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Legg inn av AdrianBnjmBurke » 01 des 2007 22:05:05

On Dec 1, 2:33 pm, am...@alltel.net wrote:
A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list. We expect that
printed copies will be in the mail to subscribers by the end of this
month, but that may not happen till early January. Certainly no later.

DAVID L. GREENE, FASG
Coeditor and publisher
The American Genealogist [TAG]

The American Genealogist

Whole Number 326 April 2007 Vol. 82, No. 2
(published December 2007)

CONTENTS

THE PERRY FAMILY OF SAWBRIDGEWORTH, HERTFORDSHIRE:
Shared Ancestry of Six Massachusetts Immigrants: John1 Perry of
Roxbury,
Isaac1 Perry of Boston, Mary1 (Perry) Heath of Roxbury, Phebe1
(Perry)
Desborough of Roxbury, John1 Reddington of Topsfield, and Abraham1
Reddington of Topsfield and Boxford William Wyman Fiske 81

DEATH COMES TO THE HATTER 90

ASA BACON AND THE SHAKING QUAKERS: Bacon Migration (1644-1850):
Massachusetts-Connecticut-Massachusetts-New York-Indiana
Ronald A. Hill 91

THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF GENEALOGISTS' SCHOLAR AWARD
FOR 2008 106

THE ENGLISH ORIGIN OF THOMAS1 AND SARAH (SCOTT) GRAVE(S)
OF HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT, AND HADLEY, MASSACHUSETTS
Leslie Mahler 107

RYURIK AND THE FIRST RYURIKIDS: Context, Problems, Sources
(concluded)
Norman W. Ingham and Christian Raffensperger 111

GODLY MEN AND "IRREGULAR COURSES" 119

PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

ENIGMAS #23: Was Capt. Rufus Gardner of New London, Connecticut, a Son
of
Capt. Christopher Gardner of South Kingstown, Rhode Island?
(concluded)
Roger D. Joslyn 130

THE ENGLISH ORIGIN OF DANIEL1 KEMPSTER OF CAMBRIDGE,
MASSACHUSETTS Craig Partridge 142

A SHORT WIDOWHOOD Robert Battle 152

EDITORIAL NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: * * 153

BOOK REVIEWS see list inside back cover 154

I see Leslie's article on Thomas Graves is coming out - I don't
suppose that anyone here has heard of research into the English
origins of John Graves, father of Benjamin who married Mary Hoare?

alden@mindspring.com

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Legg inn av alden@mindspring.com » 02 des 2007 15:52:03

On Dec 1, 3:01 pm, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
In article
321176d4-926b-4f0c-82a6-05c996848...@o6 ... groups.com>,

am...@alltel.net wrote:
A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list.
PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

I descend from Thomas Riggs in nine lines, so I am naturally very
interested in his proposed origin. To use another measure: my
grandfather (born 1896) descends from *five different children* of
Thomas and Mary (Millett) Riggs (all born from 1659 to 1682). 250 years
in an isolated coastal village (Annisquam, north coast of Cape Ann) will
do this routinely, I expect. Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

BTW Thomas Riggs's house is extant and can be stayed in as a B&B. No
discounts for descendants.

Nat Taylorhttp://www.nltaylor.net

I am descended from Thomas Rigg's son Thomas.

Doug Smith

Nathaniel Taylor

OT: another set of five siblings (was Re: Next TAG)

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 04 des 2007 06:08:18

In article
<3b658f7a-f734-47ba-9c89-c1f6897a0740@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
"alden@mindspring.com" <alden@mindspring.com> wrote:

On Dec 1, 3:01 pm, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
In article
321176d4-926b-4f0c-82a6-05c996848...@o6 ... groups.com>,

am...@alltel.net wrote:
A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list.
PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

I descend from Thomas Riggs in nine lines, so I am naturally very
interested in his proposed origin. To use another measure: my
grandfather (born 1896) descends from *five different children* of
Thomas and Mary (Millett) Riggs (all born from 1659 to 1682). 250 years
in an isolated coastal village (Annisquam, north coast of Cape Ann) will
do this routinely, I expect. Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

BTW Thomas Riggs's house is extant and can be stayed in as a B&B. No
discounts for descendants.

Nat Taylorhttp://www.nltaylor.net

I am descended from Thomas Rigg's son Thomas.

Doug Smith

I descend from this Thomas, as well as his siblings Mary, Sarah, Ann and
Andrew.

I found another five-set, also among my 17th-century Gloucester
ancestors: Edward and Sarah ( ) Haraden. My grandfather descends
from five of their children, viz. Mary, Edward, Ann, John & Benjamin.

There's no nifty extant 17th-century Haraden house to visit, though.

So: is this degree of multiple descents common or not? Someone else
must have such sets. I'm assuming that New England may be among the
easier places to trace them.

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

rmm@ece.gatech.edu

Re: OT: another set of five siblings (was Re: Next TAG)

Legg inn av rmm@ece.gatech.edu » 04 des 2007 18:46:02

On Dec 4, 12:08 am, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
In article
3b658f7a-f734-47ba-9c89-c1f6897a0...@s1 ... groups.com>,



"al...@mindspring.com" <al...@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Dec 1, 3:01 pm, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:
In article
321176d4-926b-4f0c-82a6-05c996848...@o6 ... groups.com>,

am...@alltel.net wrote:
A number of people have asked me about the contents of the next issue
of TAG, so I am pasting below the contents list.
PROPOSED HAWKSHEAD, LANCASHIRE, ORIGINS OF EDWARD1 RIGGS
OF ROXBURY, MASSACHUSETTS, AND THOMAS1 RIGGS OF
GLOUCESTER Alvy Ray Smith and Robert Charles Anderson 120

I descend from Thomas Riggs in nine lines, so I am naturally very
interested in his proposed origin. To use another measure: my
grandfather (born 1896) descends from *five different children* of
Thomas and Mary (Millett) Riggs (all born from 1659 to 1682). 250 years
in an isolated coastal village (Annisquam, north coast of Cape Ann) will
do this routinely, I expect. Is anyone else here descended from five
(or more) children of a post-medieval ancestor?

BTW Thomas Riggs's house is extant and can be stayed in as a B&B. No
discounts for descendants.

Nat Taylorhttp://www.nltaylor.net

I am descended from Thomas Rigg's son Thomas.

Doug Smith

I descend from this Thomas, as well as his siblings Mary, Sarah, Ann and
Andrew.

I found another five-set, also among my 17th-century Gloucester
ancestors: Edward and Sarah ( ) Haraden. My grandfather descends
from five of their children, viz. Mary, Edward, Ann, John & Benjamin.

There's no nifty extant 17th-century Haraden house to visit, though.

So: is this degree of multiple descents common or not? Someone else
must have such sets. I'm assuming that New England may be among the
easier places to trace them.

Nat Taylorhttp://www.nltaylor.net

My wife is descended from five children of Miles Thompson and his wife
Ann of Kittery/Berwick, Maine: John, Mary, Ann, Thomas, and Amy

Also from four children of Daniel Goodwin and Margaret Spencer of the
same town: Patience, Thomas, William, and Daniel.

Apparently, folks in Berwick didn't get out much.

Russ Mersereau

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: OT: another set of five siblings (was Re: Next TAG)

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 04 des 2007 19:21:07

In article
<4887b558-f894-4101-9f11-9a5740ac3cfa@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com>,
"rmm@ece.gatech.edu" <rmm@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:

On Dec 4, 12:08 am, Nathaniel Taylor <nltay...@nltaylor.net> wrote:

I found another five-set, also among my 17th-century Gloucester
ancestors: Edward and Sarah ( ) Haraden. My grandfather descends
from five of their children, viz. Mary, Edward, Ann, John & Benjamin.

There's no nifty extant 17th-century Haraden house to visit, though.

So: is this degree of multiple descents common or not? Someone else
must have such sets. I'm assuming that New England may be among the
easier places to trace them.

My wife is descended from five children of Miles Thompson and his wife
Ann of Kittery/Berwick, Maine: John, Mary, Ann, Thomas, and Amy

Also from four children of Daniel Goodwin and Margaret Spencer of the
same town: Patience, Thomas, William, and Daniel.

Apparently, folks in Berwick didn't get out much.


I'm glad not to be alone in this! I suspect that other examples can be
found in peninsular coastal towns (where there are fewer nearby villages
from whom to choose one's mates). As long as none of these were shall
we say pharaonic pairings, I suppose it was OK.

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

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