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Leo van de Pas

Still FitzAlan

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 22 nov 2007 20:15:10

Re: The [allegedly] Vanishing Fitz Alan surname

"Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com> wrote in message news:5ab551f1-825b-4324-9578-e8e0492649d5@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 21, 9:24 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Doug, Doug, Doug ...

Can we give this a break for awhile, please? We all know how you
get "bees in your bonnet" from time to time over the "proper and
correct spellings" of medieval names, etc., but there's no need to
continue to insist on something you can never truly prove.

You have your wish. I'm done with it.

DR

How generous of Douglas Richardson to retire from the thread he started, ostensibly as a favour to someone else but really to cover his own embarrassment, once again without acknowledging that his claims have been found wanting.

He wishes to avoid responding to Will Johnson's challenge:

WJhonson@aol.com> wrote in message news:mailman.225.1195584848.28474.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...
But Douglas you did not address the post from Peter Stewart with
his examples.
What about those?

Will Johnson

What indeed? And what about the evidence in CP volume I (page 247 note c) recording that Henry (who according to Richardson was not surnamed Fitzalan) was summoned to parliament (in February 1533, new style, in his father's lifetime) as "Henricus Fitz Alan de Maltravers Chivaler"?

Or what about the life of Queen Mary I by Robert Wingfield of Brantham written in 1554, naming him "Henricus Fitzalanus Arundellii Comes" (edition by Diarmid Macculloch, Camden Miscellany 28, London 1984, page 218)?

These are consistent with the examples presented by Peter Stewart in 2002, but contradict the view maintained in the face of this advice by Douglas Richardson, then and since.

So are we going to get another post switching to the opposite side of this debate while insinuating that Richardson rightly believed this all along?

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