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Ormus Magnus

Legg inn av Gjest » 19 nov 2007 18:22:04

_http://www.openlibrary.org/details/remainshistorica98chetuoft_
(http://www.openlibrary.org/details/rema ... 98chetuoft)
Vis Lancashire 1533, "Stanley"
"...The wife of Robert Fitz-Henry, lord of Lathom, founder of Burscough
Priory in the reign of King Richard the First is believed to have been a daughter
of Orme Fitz-Ailward, descended from Ormus Magnus and his wife Aliz, sister
of Herveus Walter, ancestor of the Butlers."



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Re: Ormus Magnus

Legg inn av Gjest » 19 nov 2007 19:15:06

On Nov 19, 9:12 am, WJhon...@aol.com wrote:
_http://www.openlibrary.org/details/remainshistorica98chetuoft_
(http://www.openlibrary.org/details/rema ... 98chetuoft)
Vis Lancashire 1533, "Stanley"

Won't let me in, but I have seen this elsewhere.

"...The wife of Robert Fitz-Henry, lord of Lathom, founder of Burscough
Priory in the reign of King Richard the First is believed to have been a daughter
of Orme Fitz-Ailward, descended from Ormus Magnus and his wife Aliz, sister
of Herveus Walter, ancestor of the Butlers."

This Ormus Magnus is supposedly the Orme for whom Ormeskirk was named,
Ormeskirk later coming into the Lathom family. I have seen him
identified with Orme de Hatton, pre-conquest predecessor of Nigel,
However, this puts him a too early to have been married to Hervey
Walter's sister, so I have seen it speculated that there was an
otherwise unknown son of that Orme, also called Orme, who was the
groom. Looks like trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear to
me.

(still got to like the name - Ormus Magnus = great worm/snake)

taf

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Re: Ormus Magnus

Legg inn av Gjest » 20 nov 2007 02:10:14

On Nov 19, 10:10 am, t...@clearwire.net wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:12 am, WJhon...@aol.com wrote:

_http://www.openlibrary.org/details/remainshistorica98chetuoft_
(http://www.openlibrary.org/details/rema ... 98chetuoft)
Vis Lancashire 1533, "Stanley"

Won't let me in, but I have seen this elsewhere.

"...The wife of Robert Fitz-Henry, lord of Lathom, founder of Burscough
Priory in the reign of King Richard the First is believed to have been a daughter
of Orme Fitz-Ailward, descended from Ormus Magnus and his wife Aliz, sister
of Herveus Walter, ancestor of the Butlers."

This Ormus Magnus is supposedly the Orme for whom Ormeskirk was named,
Ormeskirk later coming into the Lathom family. I have seen him
identified with Orme de Hatton, pre-conquest predecessor of Nigel,

Sorry, that's Halton.

taf

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