Errors on Genealogics Fw: Fw: Fw: Maud Fitzalan

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Errors on Genealogics Fw: Fw: Fw: Maud Fitzalan

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 17 nov 2007 06:21:48

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu>
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Maud Fitzalan


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OK, that's highly debatable I suppose. It's big because
making it Sinclair does give a lot of people some
fairly good royal connections that Douglas does not, if
I recall correctly from when I was doing this up.

snip
I have many differences between mine and Leo's. Most are just
simply because I stop going back into myth on a whim, and
Leo explicitly allows myths to remain if noted.

This is an interesting statement. You will not find on my website those
fabulous ancestors of Charlemange that link him to the Merovingians.
....."I explicitly allow myths to remain if noted".............where did you
get that? When something is noted, I try to investigate and try to have the
most reliable information. At times there are footnotes explaining things.
I find it offensive when you say "Leo _explicitly_ allows myths to remain if
noted".

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

Doug McDonald

Re: Errors on Genealogics Fw: Fw: Fw: Maud Fitzalan

Legg inn av Doug McDonald » 17 nov 2007 19:24:30

Leo van de Pas wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug McDonald"
mcdonald@SnPoAM_scs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Maud Fitzalan


snip
OK, that's highly debatable I suppose. It's big because
making it Sinclair does give a lot of people some
fairly good royal connections that Douglas does not, if
I recall correctly from when I was doing this up.

snip
I have many differences between mine and Leo's. Most are just
simply because I stop going back into myth on a whim, and
Leo explicitly allows myths to remain if noted.

This is an interesting statement. You will not find on my website those
fabulous ancestors of Charlemange that link him to the Merovingians.
...."I explicitly allow myths to remain if noted".............where did
you get that? When something is noted, I try to investigate and try to
have the most reliable information. At times there are footnotes
explaining things. I find it offensive when you say "Leo _explicitly_
allows myths to remain if noted".



I am referring to the Mamikonids going back to the Armenians around
AD 200, then back to Iberians, then back to Armenians 150 BC. You are here listing
lines which are the reconstructions of reputable scholars, but they are
not in the realm of "proven". This is not of the reliability of the
line back to, say, Tonantius Ferroleus, where there may be a parent
in doubt, but the grandparent is pretty clear. We've had long discussion of these
DFA lines, and you and I simply take different views of including them
in your main line. You do, I put them is supplementary files. It is this
particular Mamikonid/Armenian one I am talking about. If true, these folks
are my ancestors, and I would love to "believe", but I simply don't
"trust" the actuality of the line, as I essentially do of the
Arnulf ancestor line.

Also, the wife of Olof III "Skotkonung" is not well established. You don't have a reference, for
example. This is very unusual for you! This is another long line that,
if really connected, would be very important, as it goes to the Lombards and
Ostragoths. I exclude it from my main file.


Doug MCDonald

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