Children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancaster

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Douglas Richardson

Children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancaster

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 17 nov 2007 00:01:03

[soc.genealogy.medieval, soc.history.medieval, alt.history.british,
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Since Spencer Hines kindly brought up the issue of the correct number
of children of King Henry IV of England, I thought I would post on a
related topic, that is, the correct number of children of his father,
John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancaster.

My research indicates that John of Gaunt allegedly had a total of
fourteen children by various wives and mistresses, of whom I've found
documentation for only twelve. I've listed below all fourteen
children.

The weblink for the list of John of Gaunt's children reported in an
ancient pedigree in Feudal Manuals of English History is provided
below:

http://books.google.com/books?id=J1wDAA ... #PPA151,M1

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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Children of John of Gaunt, by his first wife, Blanche of Lancaster:

i. PHILIPPE (or FILIPA) OF LANCASTER, born at Leicester 31 March
1360, married at Oporto 11 Feb. 1387 JOÃO I, King of Portugal and the
Algarve, señor of Ceuta.

ii. JOHN OF LANCASTER, born about 1362, died young. Wright, Feudal
Manuals of English Hist. (1872): 151.

iii. ELIZABETH LANCASTER, born before 21 Feb. 1363, married (1st)
JOHN HOLAND, K.G., 1st Duke of Exeter, Earl of Huntingdon, (2nd) JOHN
CORNWALL, K.G., Lord Fanhope, Baron of Millbrook.

iv. EDWARD OF LANCASTER, born about 1365, died young. Wright, Feudal
Manuals of English Hist. (1872) 151.

v. JOHN OF LANCASTER, born before 4 May 1366, died young. Wright,
Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872): 151.

vi. HENRY OF LANCASTER [Henry IV, King of England], born about 15
April 1367.

vii. ISABEL OF LANCASTER, born about 1368, died young. [Note: This
child is not included in an early list of children of John of Gaunt
found in Wright, Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872): 151].

Children of John of Gaunt, by his 2nd wife, Constance of Castile:

i. KATHERINE (or CATALINA) OF LANCASTER, born 1372-3, married Dec.
1393 ENRIQUE III el Doliente, King of Castile and León.

ii. JOHN OF LANCASTER, born at Ghent 1374, died young. [Note: This
child is not included in an early list of children of John of Gaunt
found in Wright, Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872): 151].

Legitimated children of John of Gaunt, by his 3rd wife, Katherine de
Roet:

i. JOHN BEAUFORT, K.G., Earl of Somerset,born about 1371 (aged 21 in
1392).

ii. HENRY BEAUFORT, Bishop of Lincoln, Lord Chancellor of England,
Cardinal Bishop of Winchester, Cardinal-Priest of the titular church
of St. Eusebius (commonly called Cardinal of England), born say 1374.

iii. THOMAS BEAUFORT, K.G., Earl of Dorset, Duke of Exeter, born
about Jan. 1377.

iv. JOAN (or JANE) BEAUFORT, married (1st) ROBERT FERRERS, Knt., 2nd
Lord Ferrers of Wem, (2nd) RALPH NEVILLE, K.G., 1st Earl of
Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby.

Illegitimate child of John of Gaunt, K.G., by Mary de Saint Hilaire:

i. BLANCHE OF LANCASTER, married shortly before 6 March 1381 THOMAS
MORIEUX (or MOREUX), Knt., of Thorpe Morieux, Gorges, and Brokehalle,
Suffolk.

Douglas Richardson

Re: Children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancast

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 17 nov 2007 00:17:03

P.S. I suppose I should mention the contemporary testimony on which I
posted this past week which indicates that "on Sunday, the Feast of
Palm Sunday in the third year of the reign of our most reverend
lord" [King Henry IV] that a tailor's wife in a village near Baldock
claimed that King Henry IV of England was the bastard son of a butcher
of Ghent. See G.O. Sayles, ed., Select Cases in the Court of the
King's Bench under Richard II, Henry IV and Henry V, 7 (Selden Soc.)
(1971): 123-124.

This is much like the myth surrounding King Henry III's younger son,
Edmund, Earl of Lancaster, who is often styled "Edmund Crouchback" in
modern genealogical databases. Earl Edmund was neither crouchbacked,
hunchbacked, or crossbacked! He was no more deformed than King Henry
IV was the son of a butcher of Ghent. The Crouchback story
demonstrates how myths often have a life of their own in popular
literature, even long after they have been exposed as frauds.

Gjest

Re: Children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancast

Legg inn av Gjest » 17 nov 2007 02:27:02

[crosspost removed]

On Nov 16, 2:59 pm, Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com> wrote:

My research indicates that John of Gaunt allegedly had a total of
fourteen children by various wives and mistresses, of whom I've found
documentation for only twelve. I've listed below all fourteen
children.

The weblink for the list of John of Gaunt's children reported in an
ancient pedigree in Feudal Manuals of English History is provided
below:

http://books.google.com/books?id=J1wDAA ... over&dq=...


In this case, ancient means (it would seem) from the reign of Henry
VI, so even that is suspect. How about the contemporary record? (We
all know how much you insist on its merits when 'instructing' other
posters.) What does it have to say?

taf

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