Fw: Complete Peerage Addition: Maud Fitz Alan, the Almost Qu

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Fw: Complete Peerage Addition: Maud Fitz Alan, the Almost Qu

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 15 nov 2007 21:10:51

Richardson is so thick, within the last few days I reminded him of the
annulment obtained by Richard Fitzalan, even after children were born and
these children were deemed and treated as illegitimate. I also supplied the
CP source.

As always with best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Briggs" <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval,soc.history.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: Complete Peerage Addition: Maud Fitz Alan,the Almost Queen of
Scotland


Douglas Richardson wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:41 am, "John Briggs" <john.brig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Douglas Richardson wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:19 pm, Renia <re...@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:

Amice of Gloucester, whom you cite, above. The medieval courts
were
rife
with women whose marriages were annulled by their husbands but
who
chose
to fight the annullment. An annullment meant a marriage had
never
legally taken place so the woman remained as a single woman.

You use the word annulment. Can you cite some medieval examples
of
that for us?

Annulment is the modern term for the concept - I thought you were in
favour
of modernising terms? Which modern terms would you use for the
following?
Your choices are: divorce, annulment, judicial separation.

divortium [divorcium] a mensa et thoro

divortium [divorcium] tori et cohabitationis

divortium [divorcium] a vinculo matrimonii

separatio quoad torum

separatio quoad cohabitationem

declaratio ad matrimonii nullitatem

dispensatio ab alterutro vel utroque coniuge

Can you give us some examples of annulment in medieval England, John?

Can you give us some examples of anything other than annulment?
--
John Briggs



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