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Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 12 nov 2007 00:43:37

----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <renia@DELETEotenet.gr>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants


Jwc1870@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?


Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo



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Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 03:13:05

On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., 23g-grandfather (= grandfather preceded by
twenty-three "greats") and second cousin eighteen times removed.

Christopher Ingham

Christopher Ingham

Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 03:24:33

On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., "23g-uncle" (= "uncle" preceded by 23 "greats";
same as "granduncle" preceded by 22 "greats"), and "second
cousin 18 times removed" (= a 2nd cousin of a 20g-grandfather
or grandmother).

Christopher Ingham

Christopher Ingham

Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 03:24:33

On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., "23g-uncle" (= "uncle" preceded by 23 "greats";
same as "granduncle" preceded by 22 "greats"), and "second
cousin 18 times removed" (= a 2nd cousin of a 20g-grandfather
or grandmother).

Christopher Ingham

Christopher Ingham

Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 03:24:33

On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., "23g-uncle" (= "uncle" preceded by 23 "greats";
same as "granduncle" preceded by 22 "greats"), and "second
cousin 18 times removed" (= a 2nd cousin of a 20g-grandfather
or grandmother).

Christopher Ingham

Christopher Ingham

Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 03:24:33

On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., "23g-uncle" (= "uncle" preceded by 23 "greats";
same as "granduncle" preceded by 22 "greats"), and "second
cousin 18 times removed" (= a 2nd cousin of a 20g-grandfather
or grandmother).

Christopher Ingham

pj.evans

Re: Fw: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av pj.evans » 12 nov 2007 05:21:31

On Nov 11, 6:24 pm, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:43 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr

Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medie...@rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Jwc1...@aol.com wrote:

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,
What would you think of
ancestral cousin as a term or ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter
for back
beyond the great grands ?

Never heard such a term being used.

==================== But why not start using it? It gives scope to talk
about the brother or sister of a distant ancestor without getting
tongue-tied about the exact connection.
Leo

You are of course aware that there are precise ways to designate
such relatives: e.g., "23g-uncle" (= "uncle" preceded by 23 "greats";
same as "granduncle" preceded by 22 "greats"), and "second
cousin 18 times removed" (= a 2nd cousin of a 20g-grandfather
or grandmother).

Christopher Ingham- Hide quoted text -

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It's easier than trying to calculate the exact relationship, in many
cases. (If I'm at work, with only three-generation charts available on
my PDA (also known as the electronic 3-inch D-ring binder), I'm not
going to try figuring out relationships of any distance). 'Ancestral
cousin' works fine for me, as also 'ancestral uncle' and so on.

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 12 nov 2007 06:15:49

It's a worthy addition to the Genealogical Terminological Lexicon -- to be
used as a generic term when one doesn't or cannot home in on a precise
relationship -- which can be difficult for distant cousins,
great-granduncles and great-grandaunts -- when one is not using a computer.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Dear Spencer, Renia , and Mike,

What would you think of ancestral cousin as a term or
ancestral aunt or uncle for that matter for back beyond
the great grands?

Christopher Ingham

Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 07:24:44

On Nov 12, 12:15 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
It's a worthy addition to the Genealogical Terminological Lexicon -- to be
used as a generic term when one doesn't or cannot home in on a precise
relationship -- which can be difficult for distant cousins,
great-granduncles and great-grandaunts -- when one is not using a computer.

There you have it, Leo, an endorsement from DSH, the arbiter-general
of many newsgroups (in his own mind, at least).

But seriously, I was not arguing your point, just merely mentioning an
alternate way to designate relations, as this had not come up in some
current related threads.

Christopher Ingham

D. Spencer Hines

Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 12 nov 2007 07:43:47

Hilarious!

Pogue Ingham carries out a strategic retreat -- tail between legs.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Christopher Ingham" <christopheringham@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 12, 12:15 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:

It's a worthy addition to the Genealogical Terminological Lexicon -- to
be used as a generic term when one doesn't or cannot home in on a
precise relationship -- which can be difficult for distant cousins,
great-granduncles and great-grandaunts -- when one is not using a
computer.

There you have it, Leo, an endorsement from DSH, the arbiter-general
of many newsgroups (in his own mind, at least).

But seriously, I was not arguing your point, just merely mentioning an
alternate way to designate relations, as this had not come up in some
current related threads.

Christopher Ingham

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