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D. Spencer Hines

Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 10 nov 2007 05:15:11

Did your ancestor stay and become a Real American, with heirs, or go back
home to Britain? [DSH]

He stayed in the US with heirs who married into the Washingtons. His aunt
was my ancestress and she stayed in England. Some of her Metcalfe
children also settled in Virginia leaving heirs as did some of her
brother's children. [Renia]

It seems he is not really your ancestor then -- simply a relative, a
cousin. [DSH]

Ancestor, inasmuch as he was a member of the family living several
generations before me. [Renia] [sic]

If I had said "relative", you might think it was a contemporary relative.
Hence the use of the word "ancestor".

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

Improper use of the word ANCESTOR -- in any sort of Genealogical Sense.

COLLECTIVELY -- a Brit might say, or write, "The Britons are our ancestors"
or a modern resident of Tunisia might say, or write, "The Carthaginians are
our ancestors."

But it is a VERY SLOPPY use of English to talk of someone who was simply the
NEPHEW of someone who IS your ancestor/ancestress -- and call him an
ANCESTOR -- rather than a COUSIN, a RELATIVE, a GREAT-GRANDUNCLE. or some
other appropriate term.

Sloppy English, Renia...

You used to work as a Sub Editor of a newspaper, _The Argus_ -- correcting
Bad, Sloppy, Imprecise English. You Should Know Better...

Bad Girl...

You Deserve A Good Spanking...

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

Deus Vult

The Highlander

Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av The Highlander » 10 nov 2007 15:39:32

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:15:11 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines"
<panther@excelsior.com> wrote:

Did your ancestor stay and become a Real American, with heirs, or go back
home to Britain? [DSH]

He stayed in the US with heirs who married into the Washingtons. His aunt
was my ancestress and she stayed in England. Some of her Metcalfe
children also settled in Virginia leaving heirs as did some of her
brother's children. [Renia]

It seems he is not really your ancestor then -- simply a relative, a
cousin. [DSH]

Ancestor, inasmuch as he was a member of the family living several
generations before me. [Renia] [sic]

If I had said "relative", you might think it was a contemporary relative.
Hence the use of the word "ancestor".

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

Improper use of the word ANCESTOR -- in any sort of Genealogical Sense.

COLLECTIVELY -- a Brit might say, or write, "The Britons are our ancestors"
or a modern resident of Tunisia might say, or write, "The Carthaginians are
our ancestors."

But it is a VERY SLOPPY use of English to talk of someone who was simply the
NEPHEW of someone who IS your ancestor/ancestress -- and call him an
ANCESTOR -- rather than a COUSIN, a RELATIVE, a GREAT-GRANDUNCLE. or some
other appropriate term.

Sloppy English, Renia...

You used to work as a Sub Editor of a newspaper, _The Argus_ -- correcting
Bad, Sloppy, Imprecise English. You Should Know Better...

Bad Girl...

You Deserve A Good Spanking...

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

Deus Vult


I think that's about as revealing a look into your private obsessions
as you have ever allowed us to see.

"A good spanking for being a Bad Girl", eh?

How incredibly predictable and even more incredibly repulsive!

SICKO PIC OF THE WEEK!

David "Dominator" Hines readies himself to "discipline" Renia...

http://www.illustratorguy.com/MySpace/chewbacca.jpg

Christopher Ingham

Re: Ancestors & Descendants

Legg inn av Christopher Ingham » 12 nov 2007 02:33:25

On Nov 9, 11:15 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
Did your ancestor stay and become a Real American, with heirs, or go back
home to Britain? [DSH]

He stayed in the US with heirs who married into the Washingtons. His aunt
was my ancestress and she stayed in England. Some of her Metcalfe
children also settled in Virginia leaving heirs as did some of her
brother's children. [Renia]

It seems he is not really your ancestor then -- simply a relative, a
cousin. [DSH]

Ancestor, inasmuch as he was a member of the family living several
generations before me. [Renia] [sic]

If I had said "relative", you might think it was a contemporary relative.
Hence the use of the word "ancestor".

Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!

Improper use of the word ANCESTOR -- in any sort of Genealogical Sense.

COLLECTIVELY -- a Brit might say, or write, "The Britons are our ancestors"
or a modern resident of Tunisia might say, or write, "The Carthaginians are
our ancestors."

But it is a VERY SLOPPY use of English to talk of someone who was simply the
NEPHEW of someone who IS your ancestor/ancestress -- and call him an
ANCESTOR -- rather than a COUSIN, a RELATIVE, a GREAT-GRANDUNCLE. or some
other appropriate term.

Sloppy English, Renia...

You used to work as a Sub Editor of a newspaper, _The Argus_ -- correcting
Bad, Sloppy, Imprecise English. You Should Know Better...

The correct term for any one of the abovementioned relatives is
"ancestor":

"_ancestor_implies lineal descent through father or mother but
may apply to kinship through collaterals or race, never, however,
being applied except humorously to a relation within family
memory."
"descendant": a lineal or collateral blood relative usu. of a later
generation."
---- _Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English
Language, Unabridged_.

You tried to raise a mini-brouhaha about this a few weeks ago.
Maybe you should take this up with the lexicographers.

Christopher Ingham

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