Stanhope-Walker Marriage

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Stanhope-Walker Marriage

Legg inn av Gjest » 16 okt 2007 17:26:00

Stanhope- Walker

I am interested in the descent of the Walker family from Ursula Stanhope, daughter of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood.(YARBURGH YM/LP Stanhope v. Yarburgh and Ward - ref. YM/LP/1 - date: 1639-1648 Includes judgements, and copy of will and inventories of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood Park, Lincs.)Lincolnshire Pedigrees indicates that the most probably candidate for Ursula’s father is Sir John Stanhope of Melwood, Isle of Axholme buries Hooton Paynell 1627 by his wife Mary Hawley of Stotfold whom he married in 1593.

There seems to be confusion as to which George Walker she married.


*Ursula Stanhope,b.c. 1610-1617 in Melwood Park, Isle of Axholme, Lincs. d. 17 May 1654 in Wighill married, 1642, George Walker b. 5 September 1603 in Great Straughton, d. 15 September 1677 in Armagh.

DNB states: George Walker received “appointment in 1669 to the parishes of Lissan and Desertlyn in co. Londonderry and Armagh diocese. He was already married to Isabella Maxwell of Finnebrogue.”

To which George does Isabella Maxwell belong?


George Walker and Ursula Stanhope Walker had:
1. George Walker b. c. 1618 in Wighill, Yorkshire , d. 1 July 1690 in the Battle of the Boyne married 1669 Isabella Barclay,b.c. 1644 in Tyrone, Ireland, d. 18 February 1704. “hero of the siege of Londonderry, was the son of George Walker, rector of Kilmore and chancellor of Armagh (d. 1677), and of Ursula, daughter of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood, and is said to have been born in 1618 in Tyrone.”
(Dictionary of National Biography. Leslie Stephen
Walker, George (1618-1690) governor of Londonderry, was the son of George Walker a native of Yorkshire, who became chancellor of Armagh, by his wife Ursula Stanhope.)

If there is reasonable certainty of the date of the “hero’s” birth is 1618, I hardly think that Ursula b. c. 1610 would have had a child at eight years old.

This is not the same Stanhope as the
Sir John Stanhope of Elvaston, Derbyshire b. before 1611, d. 29 May 1638, son of Sir John Stanhope1 b. before 1568, d. 1611
and Catherine Trentham1 b. before 1596.

The arms of these families appear to be similar, but I have not found the common ancestor.


Observations appreciated,
Pat

wjhonson

Re: Stanhope-Walker Marriage

Legg inn av wjhonson » 16 okt 2007 21:50:06

On Oct 16, 9:26 am, pajun...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Stanhope- Walker

I am interested in the descent of the Walker family from Ursula Stanhope, daughter of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood.(YARBURGH YM/LP Stanhope v. Yarburgh and Ward - ref. YM/LP/1 - date: 1639-1648 Includes judgements, and copy of will and inventories of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood Park, Lincs.)Lincolnshire Pedigrees indicates that the most probably candidate for Ursula's father is Sir John Stanhope of Melwood, Isle of Axholme buries Hooton Paynell 1627 by his wife Mary Hawley of Stotfold whom he married in 1593.

There seems to be confusion as to which George Walker she married.

*Ursula Stanhope,b.c. 1610-1617 in Melwood Park, Isle of Axholme, Lincs. d. 17 May 1654 in Wighill married, 1642, George Walker b. 5 September 1603 in Great Straughton, d. 15 September 1677 in Armagh.

DNB states: George Walker received "appointment in 1669 to the parishes of Lissan and Desertlyn in co. Londonderry and Armagh diocese. He was already married to Isabella Maxwell of Finnebrogue."

To which George does Isabella Maxwell belong?

George Walker and Ursula Stanhope Walker had:
1. George Walker b. c. 1618 in Wighill, Yorkshire , d. 1 July 1690 in the Battle of the Boyne married 1669 Isabella Barclay,b.c. 1644 in Tyrone, Ireland, d. 18 February 1704. "hero of the siege of Londonderry, was the son of George Walker, rector of Kilmore and chancellor of Armagh (d. 1677), and of Ursula, daughter of Sir John Stanhope of Melwood, and is said to have been born in 1618 in Tyrone."
(Dictionary of National Biography. Leslie Stephen
Walker, George (1618-1690) governor of Londonderry, was the son of George Walker a native of Yorkshire, who became chancellor of Armagh, by his wife Ursula Stanhope.)

If there is reasonable certainty of the date of the "hero's" birth is 1618, I hardly think that Ursula b. c. 1610 would have had a child at eight years old.

This is not the same Stanhope as the
Sir John Stanhope of Elvaston, Derbyshire b. before 1611, d. 29 May 1638, son of Sir John Stanhope1 b. before 1568, d. 1611
and Catherine Trentham1 b. before 1596.

The arms of these families appear to be similar, but I have not found the common ancestor.

Observations appreciated,
Pat

Pat my first observation is that you have a lot of statements above,
but only list a single source DNB, "Walker, George" which doesn't have
all these statements in it.

So what's your source for the other statements?

Will Johnson

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