Fwd: Re: Middleton pedigree, 1100-1600: Alice Middleton, die

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Fwd: Re: Middleton pedigree, 1100-1600: Alice Middleton, die

Legg inn av Bill Arnold » 13 okt 2007 21:00:14

Thanks, Renia.

According to wills, published in NEHGS REGISTER
the other son Henry was married to another Leeke
daughter, Margery. There were a series of articles
in the 1930s, citing wills, court records, and
Visitations.
Because I am studying the Pecks and Middletons,
and have found the pedigrees, some challenged and
some confirmed, I still have questions.

For instance, the pedigree of Sir Peter Middleton,
Knight, c.1300, down to the Middleton who married
Alice Mauleverer was confirmed by Visitation citation.

So, I ask, what specifically is wrong with the pedigree.
No one has specifically stated what is incorrect about
it. Admittedly, there were few dates within Visitations,
but footnotes and external documents, wills, et al.,
offer dates. But I am puzzled why you feel Will was
saying the pedigree did not work, without offering
specifics. You might understand this all better than
I, but I am trying to resolve the Middletons and need
more than a dismissal of documented Visitation cited
by members of this list.

Bill

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Bill


--- Renia <renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:

Bill Arnold wrote:

Again, much thanks, Renia.

Re: the footnote, do we know who wrote it,
and when?

Presumably the 1881 editor, Charles Best Norcliffe. He cites the
visitation of Lincolnshire, ed 1881.


Also, there is additional evidence about the other son.

Waht other son? I'm losing track here.

Others have commentated that John, heir, might have
intnetionally left his brother's name out of the pedigree:
for some unknown reason. I could speculate, but I am
not fully cognizant of all the wills and other court documents
about these principals, as yet. Also: apparently, John's
pedigree statements are contradicted by other visitations,
and other evidence. Thanks for this, though. Are you
aware of the other evidence.

I'm not studying the Myddletons, so, no.


The other son married a daughter of Sir John Leeke,
who was the grandfather of Robert Pek(Peke) Peck,
the Elder. Best evidence is she was Margery Leeke.

What I can tell from Flower's 1563 visitation is that:

Richard Peck married Alice Myddleton of Stokheld.
His son, John Peck, married Jane, daughter of John Anne of Frickley.
John's son, Richard Peck, married Anne Hothom.
This Richard's daughter, Katherin, married John Leake (or Lake) of
Normanton.

Renia



Bill

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--- Renia <renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:


According to the pedigree of the Peck family of Wakefield in Flowers
Visitation of 1563/4, page 236:

Richard Pecke, son and heyr, married a doter of Mydelton of Stokeld.

A footnote says he was:

Sir William [Mydelton]. Her daughter Anne became the wife of Henry Allen
of Grantham. The footnote cites the Visitation of Wiltshire, ed Walter C
Metcalfe, 1881, page 2.

Their children are named as:
John
Margaret
Ann
Elsabeth
Izabell

Renia


Bill Arnold wrote:


Thanks much., Renia.

Here Is what I have:

So: I seek confirmation of the found data, the Middleton
pedigree: seeking any missing information and corrections
of anything which is incorrect.

Sir Peter de Middleton=Eustacia de Plumpton
knight, sheriff, Yorkshire
alive.1290/1300
____________________________________________
Sir Thomas Middleton=Eliza Gramary
____________________________________________
Sir Nicolas Middleton=Alice Stapleton
____________________________________________
John Middleton=Alice Mauleverer
____________________________________________
[source: above: Clay's 3. vol. Visitations]
____________________________________________
William Middleton=Margaret Hamerton
of Stockhyll
____________________________________________
John Middleton=Maud Thwaytes
____________________________________________
Sir Peter Middleton=Anne Vasavour
will:2 Apr 1499
____________________________________________
Sir William Middleton,Knight=Jane Dudley
____________________________________________
Thomas Middleton=Margaret Gascon
____________________________________________
[source: above: Visitation of Yorkshire,
1563-64, Wm Flower]
____________________________________________
Seeking to place in the Middleton pedigree,
Alice Middleton, died aft. 1491
____________________________________________
[Note 1: in parish church of Wakefield:
"Here lyeth buried Rickard Pek(Peck),esquire,
and Alce, his wief, daughter of Peter Middleton
of Stokeld, Knight, and had yssue 2 sons and 4
daughters. Richard Pek(Peck) dyed anno Domini
1516, 24 Junii."]
____________________________________________
[Note 2: pedigree of one of Alice Middleton's
sons, in part, printed in *The Publications of the
Surtees Society* for 1862 (vol. 41, p. 81):
"Richard Pek(Peck) maried (sic) Alice, doughter
(sic) of Middleton of Stokell (names one son,
not the other, and 4 daughters).]
____________________________________________
[Note 3: In 4 Henry VII 2-25 Nov 1488: "Richard
Pek(Peck) and Alice, his wife, appear as deforciants
....in large parish of Halifax, in the West Riding of
Yorkshire..."]
____________________________________________
[Note 4: in 6 Henry VII 15 Apr-8 May 1491:
"Richard Pek(Peck) and Alice, his wife, as
deforciants...."]
____________________________________________
[Note 5: Inquisition post Mortem on death of
Richard Pek(Peck) of Wakefield (co. York) Esq.,
held at Wentbridge (sic) 10 henry VIII 28 Aug
1518."]
____________________________________________
[Note 6: "William Middleton, Knight, with Thomas
Middleton, his son and heir, William Thwaites, Esq.,
of Marston...." re: an indenture created years earlier,
22 Henry VII 23 Jul 1507, arranging marriage of
son John of Alice Middleton and Richard Pek(Peck)
and disposition of land.
____________________________________________
FINDING SUMMARY of evidence, above:
(1)Alice Middleton was alive in 1488 and 1491,and
apparently died thereafter as her husband Richard
Pek(Peck) remarried.
(2)Alice Middleton was first wife of Richard Pek(Peck),
her pedigree entered in Tonge's Visitation, 1530, by
son John, therein said to be daughter of Middleton
of Stokell.
(3)in parish church she was named daughter of Peter
Middleton of Stokeld, knight.
(4)Alice Middleton was name in Inquisition post
Mortem of her husband as mother of 2 sons and 4
daughters.
_________________________________________________
CONCLUSIONS, based on pedigree and notes:
If said Alice Middleton, wife of Richard Pek(Peck)
is daughter of Sir Peter Middleton,d.2 Apr 1499,
whose wife was Anne Vavasour, then she was
the sister of Sir William Middleton, also son and
heir of Sir Peter Middleton, and Sir William, will
2 Aug 1549, died 11 Mar 1552. In 1993 article in
Ilkley Gazette of East Yorkshire, a William Middleton
who died in 1552 had requested burial next to his ancestor,
Sir Peter Middleton, knight and sheriff of Yorkshire,
who was buried in the parish church, c.1300, and
who was married to Eustacia Plumpton. Thus,
Alice Middleton is great-granddaughter of William
Middleton and his wife Margaret Hamerton.
Alice Middleton's brother Sir William was heir-enforcer
in 1516 on behalf of heirs or Richard Pek(Peck)
and his wife Alice Middleton, Sir William's sister.
Alice Middleton's grandmother Maud Thwaytes's
relative, William Thwaytes, was witness. Maud
Thwaytes father John died 1469.


Bill

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--- Renia <renia@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote:



Bill Arnold wrote:



Much thanks. I just got in mail Marshall's "Genealogist's
Guide" after talking with Gary Boyd Roberts. But I still
have the problem of getting the cited works.

For info, I am now concentrating on Middletons from
Sir Peter de Middleton,c.1300, down to William Middleton,
d.1552, who was his descendant. My concerns are near
the last descendants in that line. Particularly, I am
interested in locating my female andestor Middleton
who was more than likely born to the Middleton who
married Alice Mauleverer, and was probably a brother
of William Middleton who married Margaret Hamerton.


The usual way in genealogy, as you doubtless know, is to work backwards

from what you know, to what you don't know.

That said, the Visitation of Yorkshire 1563 gives:

William Mydelton of Stockhill married Margaret doughter of Sir Stephen
Hamerton of Wyckelsworth, com Ebor (in the county of Yorkshire). His
"son and heyr" was John Mydelton who married Mawde doughter of John
Thwaytes of Lofthowse.

William was the second son of Oliverus or Lodwicus Mydelton, nupcit (who
married) "Johanam filiam et heredem Johannis Granson" (Joan, daughter
and heir of John Granson). Their children were:
Edward*
William (married Margaret Hamerton)
Thomas
Anna
Johana
Johana (sic) nupta Leonardo Preston

No other spouses mentioned.

None of the Mydeltons in this extensive genealogy is stated to have
married a Mauleverer. The earliest Myddleton mentioned, is Thomas. A
Peter Middleton (etc) is not mentioned. By the same token, the
Mauleverer pedigree does not show any marriage to a Myddleton.
* Edward probably died young as he was not the heir.


Who, where and when was your female ancestor Middleton?

Renia


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