Some prominent descendants of John Hender of Bottreaux Castl

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John Brandon

Some prominent descendants of John Hender of Bottreaux Castl

Legg inn av John Brandon » 26 sep 2007 21:12:07

(i.e., close relatives of Gov. Thomas Dudley) ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=-t8HAA ... x#PPA10,M1

WJhonson

Re: Some prominent descendants of John Hender of Bottreaux C

Legg inn av WJhonson » 27 sep 2007 05:15:11

<<In a message dated 09/26/07 13:15:30 Pacific Standard Time, starbuck95@hotmail.com writes:
(i.e., close relatives of Gov. Thomas Dudley) ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=-t8HAA ... x#PPA10,M1 >>

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Thanks to John Brandon for this link which goes into *just enough detail* about the Earls of Radnor, etc that I was able to use it, plus the extracted IGI entries to firm up some information on John Robartes, second wife Isabella Smith, et al.

This book does not give many dates, but it does give us the statement that Leticia Robartes as her first husband married Charles the 2nd Earl of Drogheda.

Leo has the 1st Earl and his son the 3rd Earl and so this Charles fits nicely in that family, meaning he would be born between 1640 and 1660 and o.s.p. in 1679

So we'd be looking for a Leticia Robartes born say 1635 to 1670

Flinging this data into the IGI we do get her
baptised 17 Feb 1652 at Lanhydrock, Cornwall which place is btw expected of this family.

Leo states that Isabella Smith was married to John Robartes, 1st Earl of Radnor between 11 May 1646 and 21 Apr 1647 and indeed we find their children starting with the Francis Robartes stating in John's link to have married firstly Penelope Pole [daughter of Courteney Pole, 2nd Bart of Shute by his wife Ureth Shapcote per Stirnet Pole3].

Penelope o.s.p. and he married secondly Anne FitzGerald stated as daughter of "the Earl of Kildare" and indeed Leo has this Anne as daughter of Wentworth FitzGerald, 17th Earl of Kildare by his wife Elizabeth Holles, so that Anne must have been born 1655/64 [her father died in early 1664].

By his first wife Lucy Rich, dau of Robert Rich, 2nd Earl of Warwick by his wife Frances Hatton; John Robartes had at least three children:

John 29 Jan 1632; Robert in 1633 but not in the register curiously; Hender bap 28 Nov 1635

Lucy Rich then must have died between 1635 and 1647 when John is known to have already married Isabella Smith daughter of "John Smith Knt of Kent"

They then proceed to have no less than *thirteen* more children baptised from 1650 to 1669, after which Isabella probably dropped dead from exhaustion.

Isabella Smith then has to be born between 1621 and 1636.

The three children about whom we have some other details appear in the register as:
Francis 6 Jan 1650
Leticia 17 Feb 1652
Aramintha 18 Oct 1655

For baptism see
http://www.familysearch.org - IGI - British Isles - Batch P002161


Will Johnson

John Brandon

Re: Some prominent descendants of John Hender of Bottreaux C

Legg inn av John Brandon » 28 sep 2007 16:10:33

More prominent Hender descendants--and Thomas Dudley cousins--in the
Molesworth family ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=Uu0KAA ... molesworth



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