Alice Perrers Fw: Fw: I'll bet you a ham sandwich

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Alice Perrers Fw: Fw: I'll bet you a ham sandwich

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 25 sep 2007 12:51:08

Richardson did not provide me with the article, but someone else did. Having
read it, I find it compelling and have changed my records and after the next
update, Edward III will have a bastard son, John Southeray (not de Surrey).
In combination with what The Oxford Illustrated history of the British
Monarchy recorded, I see no contradictions.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com>
Newsgroups: alt.history.british, alt.talk.royalty,
soc.genealogy.medieval,soc.history.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: I'll bet you a ham sandwich


Dear Leo ~

I suggest you find and read the interesting article by the medieval
historian, Mark Ormrod, which appeared in recent time in Chaucer
Review, 40 (2006): 219-229. In the article, Mr. Ormrod states his
belief that King Edward III of England was the father of his mistress,
Alice Perrers' son, John de Surrey. The same view was expressed in
the book, Royal Bastards of Medieval England, by Chris Given-Wilson
and Alice Curteis, published in 1984, pages 136-142. I concur with
findings of both Mr. Ormrod and Given-Wilson/Curteis.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

On Sep 21, 6:52 pm, "Leo van de Pas" <leovd...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:

Show us the proofEdward III had a bastard before Queen Philippa
died.

You have dodged this long enough, especially the Edward III story,
you would
make your name, DR re-writes History. All the honour would be well
deserved.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas



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