Foibles of the Temple family

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John Brandon

Foibles of the Temple family

Legg inn av John Brandon » 21 sep 2007 23:50:29

Hunting for signs of Edolphe Andrews in the _Calendar of State Papers,
Domestic Series_ in the period 1650-1700, I found nothing of interest
on him, but spotted a couple of details about the Temple of Stowe
family that may not be generally known:

_Calendar of State Papers, Domestic Series, of the Reign of Charles
II, 1666-1667_, p. 456:

[16 Jan. 1667.] Coventry, Jan. 14: One Newman, of Felloughby,
poisoned four of his children with rat's bane, in mistake for flour of
brimstone. John Temple, brother to Sir Richard, is in gaol, having or
having had 17 wives. Dr. Winter, an eminent nonconformist, latterly
come from Ireland, has died ...

_Calendar of State Papers, Domestic Series, October 1668 to December
1669_, p. 463:

[29 Aug. 1669.] Reprieve for John Temple, should he be sentenced to
be burnt in the hand for polygamy.

_Calendar of State Papers, Domestic Series, March 1st, 1675, to
February 29th, 1676_, pp. 101-105:

[A long and remarkable document reciting how Calcott Chambre, Jr.'s,
nuncupative will concerning Irish estates was fabricated (his actual
written will having been suppressed), and his widow Mary (nee Lester
or Leycester) forced to prove the nuncupative (fake) will. The real
will was later discovered, and proved, and the nuncupative will then
set aside. Mary the widow had in the meantime married one Job Ward
and later one William Eyre ...]

Eyre being a close prisoner in Warwick Castle in 1649, Judge Advocate
Whaley, formerly Mrs. Eyre's servant in Ireland, persuaded her to make
Col. James Temple [the Regicide] her daughter's guardian, lest
Cromwell, on account of her husband, should sequester the estate, and
she accordingly trusted Temple with most of the said writings
concerning the estate, which he refused to deliver when requested to
do so by Eyre and his wife in 1650, and inveigled the daughter to
marry his youngest son, Alexander.
Eyre in the latter part of 1650 entered on his estate in right of
his wife, and the then Council put him in possession thereof and he
held it for several years, but, he being made a prisoner again by
Cromwell for many years, the Earl of Strafford and Col. Temple and his
son Alexander and his wife commenced many suits to oust him from the
premises of which he was in possession and used the said writings
which Temple had unduly deprived him of, and redelivered the lease of
200 years to the now Lord Crew, one of the trustees, who has
acknowledged that he has it and is ready to deliver it to whom a Court
shall command.

.. . .

.... Mrs. Eyre fainted for want in the streets of Dublin, and died two
hours after, crying that her daughter Temple had broken her heart, for
she and her husband enjoy all the Earl or his ancestors gave for
Shelalah (except the 500 l. to Chambre of Minmore), though the whole
of the 13,200 l. belonged to Eyre in right of his wife as a chattel,
and the judges declared that whatever purchase money they paid to any
but Eyre they paid in their own wrong, which caused the now Earl to
take a bond from Temple to keep him harmless from Eyre, for Mrs.
Chambre's daughter had a distinct portion of 2,000 l. by her father's
will, though now they would make her heir of all they have left the
family.
(Arguments to prove from the premises that both the inheritance
and the lease of the said estate were vested in Eyre's wife.)

.. . .

Note: This Calcot Chambre would be some relation of the George Wyllys
family of Connecticut, as Gov. Wyllys descended from Hester Chamber of
Williamscote, who had a brother named Calcot or Calcott Chambre/
Chamber.


John Matthews

Re: Foibles of the Temple family

Legg inn av John Matthews » 26 sep 2007 08:04:32

On 24 Sep, 20:08, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://books.google.com/books?id=6xojAAAAMAAJ&q=%22john+temple%22+big....

There are some interesting family connections among the people
involved in this case, although I'm not sure whether they are relevant
to the issues being disputed. I believe judge advocate Whalley was
Henry Whalley, brother of the regicide Edward Whalley. A third
brother, Thomas Whalley was married to James Temple's step-sister,
Mary Penistone.

Two of the trustees for the disputed estate - James and Nathanial
Fiennes were full cousins of James Temple. Their father, Viscount Saye
and Sele was married to Elizabeth Temple.

All of these people belonged to the web of puritan families who were
prominent in establishing the English republic and who have been
described as "the great contrivers". Once again, it is unclear whether
this was relevant to the case.

James Temple seems to have attracted a number of accusations of
financial impropriety, although apparently nothing was proved. In
1648, one Elizabeth Willan attempted to serve him with two writs in
connection with a bond for £400. He "threw them on the ground and
spurned them with his foot". (Appendix to the 7th Report of the Royal
Commission on Historical Manuscripts) A few years later, he was
accused of feathering his own nest from the estate of a prominent
Sussex catholic - Sir John Shelley.

John Matthews

John Brandon

Re: Foibles of the Temple family

Legg inn av John Brandon » 26 sep 2007 16:55:54

James Temple seems to have attracted a number of accusations of
financial impropriety, although apparently nothing was proved. In
1648, one Elizabeth Willan attempted to serve him with two writs in
connection with a bond for £400. He "threw them on the ground and
spurned them with his foot". (Appendix to the 7th Report of the Royal
Commission on Historical Manuscripts) A few years later, he was
accused of feathering his own nest from the estate of a prominent
Sussex catholic - Sir John Shelley.

John Matthews

Was it known that James' son Alexander married this Chambre lady from
Ireland?

John Matthews

Re: Foibles of the Temple family

Legg inn av John Matthews » 27 sep 2007 06:16:42

On 26 Sep, 16:55, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Was it known that James' son Alexander married this Chambre lady from
Ireland?

Well, I didn't know it and I've never seen it mentioned. It's
generally said that the male line from James "died out".

John Matthews

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