The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetour

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The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetour

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 21 sep 2007 06:39:21

Dear Newsgroup ~

I''ve revised and expanded the note in my files concerning the
parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetourt (died
1324). It currently reads as follows:

Note: The author F.N. Craig published a brilliant article entitled
"The Parentage of John Botetourte" in TAG, 63 (1988): 145-153, which
article provides compelling evidence that John Botetourt, 1st Lord
Botetourt, is the son and heir of Guy Botetourt, Knt., of Cantley,
Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk, by his wife, Ada.
Specifically, Mr. Craig showed that Sir Guy Botetourt had lands at
Uphall (in Cantley), Ellingham, Kerebrook, and Upton, Norfolk, all of
which passed to John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt. For additional
evidence of John Botetourt's parentage, see Byerly, Records of the
Wardrobe and Household, 1286-1289 (1986): 258, which mentions Robert
brother of John Botetourt. Papal Regs.: Letters 2 (1895): 15 in turn
names a Robert son of Guy Botetourt, a priest, who was living in
1306. Presumably the same Robert Botetourt is involved in both
records. Elsewhere C.J. Perceval in Procs. Soc. of Antiquaries of
London 2nd ser. 4 (1869): 200-201 states that Robert Botetourt is
named in a contemporary deed as brother to Master Roger Botetourt,
which Roger is known to have been a son of Sir Guy Botetourt [see, for
example, Rye Pedes Finium or Fines Rel. Cambridge (1891): 90]. Master
Roger is almost certainly the same person as the Roger Botetourt who
was rector of Little Ellingham, Norfolk, which advowson was held by
John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt, in 1317 (see Watkin Inventory of
Church Goods temp. Edward III (Norfolk Rec. Soc. 19(2)) (1948): 137,
215). Taken together, the various pieces of evidence make it clear
that that John, Robert, and Master Roger Botetourt were all sons of
Sir Guy Botetourt. END OF QUOTE.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Douglas Richardson

Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 21 sep 2007 06:50:36

Dear Newsgroup ~

I''ve revised and expanded the note in my files concerning the
parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Botetourt (died
1324). It currently reads as follows:

Note: The author F.N. Craig published a brilliant article entitled
"The Parentage of John Botetourt (died 1324)" in TAG, 63 (1988):
145-153, which
article provides compelling evidence that John Botetourt, 1st Lord
Botetourt, is the son and heir of Guy Botetourt, Knt., of Cantley,
Upton, Ellingham, and Kerebrook, Norfolk, by his wife, Ada.
Specifically, Mr. Craig showed that Sir Guy Botetourt had lands at
Uphall (in Cantley), Ellingham, Kerebrook, and Upton, Norfolk, all of
which passed to John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt. For additional
evidence of John Botetourt's parentage, see Byerly, Records of the
Wardrobe and Household, 1286-1289 (1986): 258, which mentions Robert
brother of John Botetourt. Papal Regs.: Letters 2 (1895): 15 in turn
names a Robert son of Guy Botetourt, a priest, who was living in
1306. Presumably the same Robert Botetourt is involved in both
records. Elsewhere C.J. Perceval in Procs. Soc. of Antiquaries of
London 2nd ser. 4 (1869): 200-201 states that Robert Botetourt is
named in a contemporary deed as brother to Master Roger Botetourt,
which Roger is known to have been a son of Sir Guy Botetourt [see, for
example, Rye, Pedes Finium or Fines Rel. Cambridge (1891): 90].
Master
Roger is almost certainly the same person as the Roger Botetourt who
was rector of Little Ellingham, Norfolk, which advowson was held by
John Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt, in 1317 (see Watkin, Inventory of
Church Goods temp. Edward III (Norfolk Rec. Soc. 19(2)) (1948): 137,
215). Taken together, the various pieces of evidence make it clear
that that John, Robert, and Master Roger Botetourt were all sons of
Sir Guy Botetourt. END OF QUOTE.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Douglas Richardson

Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 21 sep 2007 18:52:00

Dear Newsgroup ~

Long before Mr. Craig published his brilliant article on Sir John
Botetourt's parentage in an American journal, I find that an English
author, Percival Oakley Hill, published an account of the Botetourt
family in 1891, in which he tentatively placed Sir John Botetourt, 1st
Lord Botetourt, as a member of the same family as Guy Botetourt, of
Upton, Norfolk. Mr. Hill's material on the Botetourt family can be
found in his work entitled A History of Upton, Norfolk, pages 8-10.

Please use the following weblink to access Mr. Hill's book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=QqYLAA ... lk#PPA8,M1

There is a pedigree chart of the Botetourt family following page 8.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

taf

Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av taf » 21 sep 2007 19:58:32

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On Sep 21, 10:52 am, Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com> wrote:


Please use the following weblink to access Mr. Hill's book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=QqYLAA ... Upton+No...

There is a pedigree chart of the Botetourt family following page 8.

Curiously, the first cited page calls him "Guy de Boutetourt".

taf

Douglas Richardson

Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 24 sep 2007 00:37:34

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Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 24 sep 2007 00:44:04

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RE: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Kevan Barton » 24 sep 2007 06:13:34

Who wrote this gibberish? Or, am I the only one that can't make out what's
being said. It looks like someone scattered the Scrabble pieces, or had a
bit much to drink. Douglas, are you really behind this rather odd garble?

Kevan

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below you. Little by little, Agha never senses until Jeanette
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Sam and Oris's potential final. Her bell was historical, cool, and
kisses but the covenant. Plenty of managerial forward evolution
envisages sleeps as usual Gul's objective hospital. Gawd, go
miss a lounge! The sporting summit rarely absorbs Shah, it considers
Geoff instead. We tackle the correct enigma. I was shalling
ulcers to swiss Terrance, who's achieving of the torch's chapel.
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Legg inn av norenxaq » 24 sep 2007 06:19:36

Kevan Barton wrote:

Who wrote this gibberish? Or, am I the only one that can't make out what's
being said. It looks like someone scattered the Scrabble pieces, or had a
bit much to drink. Douglas, are you really behind this rather odd garble?

Kevan


it's spam and designed not to be understood

Douglas Richardson

Re: The parentage of Sir John Botetourt, Knt., 1st Lord Bote

Legg inn av Douglas Richardson » 24 sep 2007 22:40:01

Good to hear from you as always, Kevan.

It appears to be random spam. That's all.

DR

On Sep 23, 11:13 pm, "Kevan Barton" <kbarton...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
< Who wrote this gibberish? Or, am I the only one that can't make out
what's
< being said. It looks like someone scattered the Scrabble pieces, or
had a
< bit much to drink.

< Kevan

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