Genealogical Cliques

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Dana S. Leslie

Genealogical Cliques

Legg inn av Dana S. Leslie » 08 sep 2007 22:02:25

Present at Runnymede, Companions of the Conqueror, Signers of the
Declaration of Independence . . .

Has anyone ever traced/claimed descent from an even more exclusive clique:
Reginald Fitzurse, Hugh de Moreville, William de Tracy, Richard le Breton?
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Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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Austin W. Spencer

Re: Genealogical Cliques

Legg inn av Austin W. Spencer » 09 sep 2007 05:29:51

On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, "Dana S. Leslie" <dsles...@alumni.princeton.edu>
wrote:
Present at Runnymede, Companions of the Conqueror, Signers of the
Declaration of Independence . . .

Has anyone ever traced/claimed descent from an even more exclusive clique:
Reginald Fitzurse, Hugh de Moreville, William de Tracy, Richard le Breton?
--

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: DSLes...@alumni.princeton.edu
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideashttp://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/

F. N. Craig, "Lady Millicent's Cat and the Bullers Inheritance:
Colonial Immigrants, Feral Cats, and Medieval Genealogy," _American
Genealogist_ 70 (1995): 97-103, at 96, 98, gives a translated extract
from the _Curia Regis Rolls_, vol. 16 (1979), pp. 313-16, no. 1611.
Craig's text reads in part:

"Afterwards, on the fifteenth day after Holy Trinity [1241], at
Gloucester, the jurors came and the inquest was held before our lord
the King by [12 jurors and 5 others, named], who say upon their oath
that King Henry I gave the aforesaid manor of Badmondisfield to a
certain Baldwin de Bullers in marriage with Sibilla de la Faleyse, his
niece, and Baldwin begot upon her two daughters, namely Matilda and
Hillaria; and Hillaria died without an heir of her own, and the
aforesaid Matilda was married to a certain Richard FitzUrse, who begot
upon the aforesaid Matilda a certain son, namely Reginald FitzUrse,
and two daughters, namely Margery and Mabel. Then the aforesaid
Reginald had a certain daughter, namely Matilda, who was married to a
certain Robert de Curtenay, who begot upon her a certain William de
Curtenay, his son and heir; and because the said William died without
an heir of his own, his hereditary right reverted to the aforesaid
Margery and Mabel, the sisters of the aforesaid Reginald FitzUrse; and
from Margery there was descended Richard Engayne and, from Richard,
Vitalis Engayne..."

Page 97 of Craig's article has a chart showing the line of descent
from John Engayne, son of Vitalis, to Grace Chetwood, second wife of
the Rev. Peter Bulkeley of Concord, Massachusetts. Hence, as Craig
points out, many Americans can claim Reginald FitzUrse as a distant
uncle. It would appear, however, that Reginald had no _dexcendants_
beyond the second generation.

One down? Or is it out?

Austin W. Spencer

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