What is the correct historical term for .....?
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Liz Owen
What is the correct historical term for .....?
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late Middle
Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the Middle
Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late Middle
Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the Middle
Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
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Christopher Ingham
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
On Sep 2, 5:45 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Try "haut Moyen Age."
Christopher Ingham
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late Middle
Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the Middle
Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
Try "haut Moyen Age."
Christopher Ingham
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Christopher Ingham
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
On Sep 2, 6:11 am, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Sorry - You needed that in English, right? That would be the High
Middle Ages.
Christopher Ingham
wrote:
On Sep 2, 5:45 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late Middle
Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the Middle
Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
Try "haut Moyen Age."
Christopher Ingham
Sorry - You needed that in English, right? That would be the High
Middle Ages.
Christopher Ingham
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Dana S. Leslie
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
"Christopher Ingham" <christopheringham@comcast.net> wrote in message
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That is, indeed, the standard usage, in English, I believe.
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On Sep 2, 6:11 am, Christopher Ingham <christophering...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Sep 2, 5:45 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to
the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
Middle
Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the
Middle
Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
Try "haut Moyen Age."
Christopher Ingham
Sorry - You needed that in English, right? That would be the High
Middle Ages.
That is, indeed, the standard usage, in English, I believe.
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Liz Owen
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
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Liz
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Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
Middle Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the
Middle Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen
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Christopher Ingham
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
On Sep 3, 6:24 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de la
culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
Christophe
Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
"Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
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Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de la
culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
Christophe
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D. Spencer Hines
Re: What Is The Correct Historical Term For .....?
Nicely Stated...
DSH
"Christopher Ingham" <christopheringham@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 6:24 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de la
culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
Christophe
DSH
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On Sep 3, 6:24 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
"Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
- Show quoted text -
Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de la
culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
Christophe
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Peter Stewart
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
"Christopher Ingham" <christopheringham@comcast.net> wrote in message
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This could be confusing, especially to anyone who intends to read French
medievalists - terminology is as various as the milestones that are adduced,
but many of them use "haut Moyen âge" more in a chronological sense than a
cultural one, to indicate the period from the 5th to as late as the 10th
century (more as German historians use Frühmittelalter, rather than
Hochmittelalter), and "bas Moyen âge" for the 11th to 15th centuries.
Peter Stewart
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On Sep 3, 6:24 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
"Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> a écrit dans le message de news:
46da8658$0$8265$426a7...@news.free.fr...
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to
the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de
la culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
This could be confusing, especially to anyone who intends to read French
medievalists - terminology is as various as the milestones that are adduced,
but many of them use "haut Moyen âge" more in a chronological sense than a
cultural one, to indicate the period from the 5th to as late as the 10th
century (more as German historians use Frühmittelalter, rather than
Hochmittelalter), and "bas Moyen âge" for the 11th to 15th centuries.
Peter Stewart
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Christopher Ingham
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
On Sep 3, 11:36 pm, "Peter Stewart" <p_m_stew...@msn.com> wrote:
You are correct. Yet when the French refer to the terminology of
English speakers, the "High Middle Ages" is expressed as the "haut
Moyen Age." I should have thought to make some clarification; which
you now have done.
Christopher Ingham
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On Sep 3, 6:24 am, "Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> wrote:
Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
"Liz Owen" <l.o...@free.fr> a écrit dans le message de news:
46da8658$0$8265$426a7...@news.free.fr...
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to
the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
Le haut Moyen Age est l'epoque pendant laquelle en a atteint a
l'apogee de la civilisation medievale. La periode (11e siecle ap. J.-
C. - 13e siecle ap. J.-C.) s'est characterise par la naissance des
monarchies nationales, une reprise economique et le renouveau de
la culture. Le style gothique predomine en ce temps-la.
This could be confusing, especially to anyone who intends to read French
medievalists - terminology is as various as the milestones that are adduced,
but many of them use "haut Moyen âge" more in a chronological sense than a
cultural one, to indicate the period from the 5th to as late as the 10th
century (more as German historians use Frühmittelalter, rather than
Hochmittelalter), and "bas Moyen âge" for the 11th to 15th centuries.
Peter Stewart- Hide quoted text -
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You are correct. Yet when the French refer to the terminology of
English speakers, the "High Middle Ages" is expressed as the "haut
Moyen Age." I should have thought to make some clarification; which
you now have done.
Christopher Ingham
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Dana S. Leslie
Re: What is the correct historical term for .....?
I think, just because it is regarded as the *peak* of medieval civilization,
as opposed to the centuries leading up to it, and the century or two of
decline after the Black Death
--
Blessed Be,
Dana
D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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"Liz Owen" <l.owen@free.fr> wrote in message
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as opposed to the centuries leading up to it, and the century or two of
decline after the Black Death
--
Blessed Be,
Dana
D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: DSLeslie@alumni.princeton.edu
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
"Liz Owen" <l.owen@free.fr> wrote in message
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Thanks to those who helped me out with this; now why "High"?
Liz
"Liz Owen" <l.owen@free.fr> a crit dans le message de news:
46da8658$0$8265$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
Good morning
A friend has to translate, from the French, a phrase which refers to the
middle part of the Middle Ages. We can do EarlyMiddle Ages and Late
Middle Ages but the middle bit has us stumped; we just hope it's not the
Middle Middle Ages - that would be very untidy!
TIA
Liz Owen