Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of Wind
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John Brandon
Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of Wind
The 1663 Staffordshire Visitation makes a couple mentions of one
Christopher Sanders, living at that time in Windsor in New England:
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... #PPA154,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... #PPA261,M1
These details seem to match up with an entry in Savage's _Genealogical
Dictionary_ for a gentleman of this name living first at Windsor and
later at Rehoboth:
SAUNDERS, sometimes SANDERS, CHRISTOPHER, Windsor 1671, came short
time bef. as seems prob. had Daniel, wh. d. 22 Dec. 1675, at 11 days
old; Susanna, b. 20 Nov. 1676; Daniel, again 27 Oct. 1678; and
Elizabeth 30 Apr. 1681; and it may be he was unsuccess. in trade, and
rem. to Rehoboth, for one of this name was there 1690. DANIEL,
Cambridge, d. 27 Feb. 1640, and no more is kn. of him. EDWARD,
Portsmouth 1639, may be the man punish. at Watertown, 1654, for abuse
of Ruth Parsons. See Col. Rec. III. 364. GEORGE, Windsor, br. of
Christopher, propound. for freem. 1667, when he was ens. at
Killingworth, m. bef. 1675, Mary, d. of George Saxton, had George,
perhaps by former w. old eno. at least to be tax. with his f. 1675;
and d. 16 Nov. 1690, leav. Mary, then 13 yrs. old, and Abiah, a. 6.
GEORGE, Windsor, br. of Christopher, acc. Stiles, 770, rem. to
Simsbury, m. 17 Dec. 1691, Abigail, perhaps d. of Nathaniel Bissell,
wh. Stiles prints Russell, had, he says, Hannah, b. 23 May previous,
and he d. 5 Dec. 1697. Very much confusion a. this name exists, and it
may not be wholly dissipat. by reducing two Georges to one.
The one at Rehoboth was called "Mr. Christopher Sanders" in a list of
inhabitants there ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=hyjMIY ... 2+rehoboth
Are there descendants of Christopher Sanders?
Christopher Sanders, living at that time in Windsor in New England:
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... #PPA154,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... #PPA261,M1
These details seem to match up with an entry in Savage's _Genealogical
Dictionary_ for a gentleman of this name living first at Windsor and
later at Rehoboth:
SAUNDERS, sometimes SANDERS, CHRISTOPHER, Windsor 1671, came short
time bef. as seems prob. had Daniel, wh. d. 22 Dec. 1675, at 11 days
old; Susanna, b. 20 Nov. 1676; Daniel, again 27 Oct. 1678; and
Elizabeth 30 Apr. 1681; and it may be he was unsuccess. in trade, and
rem. to Rehoboth, for one of this name was there 1690. DANIEL,
Cambridge, d. 27 Feb. 1640, and no more is kn. of him. EDWARD,
Portsmouth 1639, may be the man punish. at Watertown, 1654, for abuse
of Ruth Parsons. See Col. Rec. III. 364. GEORGE, Windsor, br. of
Christopher, propound. for freem. 1667, when he was ens. at
Killingworth, m. bef. 1675, Mary, d. of George Saxton, had George,
perhaps by former w. old eno. at least to be tax. with his f. 1675;
and d. 16 Nov. 1690, leav. Mary, then 13 yrs. old, and Abiah, a. 6.
GEORGE, Windsor, br. of Christopher, acc. Stiles, 770, rem. to
Simsbury, m. 17 Dec. 1691, Abigail, perhaps d. of Nathaniel Bissell,
wh. Stiles prints Russell, had, he says, Hannah, b. 23 May previous,
and he d. 5 Dec. 1697. Very much confusion a. this name exists, and it
may not be wholly dissipat. by reducing two Georges to one.
The one at Rehoboth was called "Mr. Christopher Sanders" in a list of
inhabitants there ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=hyjMIY ... 2+rehoboth
Are there descendants of Christopher Sanders?
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
"Christopher Saunders" was a deputy to the Plymouth General Court from
Rehoboth in the years 1690-92 ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=hyjMIY ... #PPA142,M1
Rehoboth in the years 1690-92 ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=hyjMIY ... #PPA142,M1
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
From tombstone in God's Acre (Also known as the Old Burying
Ground) ...
"Sanders Abigail
--About 1641
--February 21 1725
--age 84, Widow of George Sanders and former wife of Thomas Bissell
http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/conne ... dsacre.htm
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
Probably. The Sanders/Saunders list has people
interested in this surnname in this same area.
I believe that Christopher Saunders ancestry has been
published in the Register.
Kay Allen AG
Hmm, possibly ... but I wonder [since I don't see any entries for
Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders in WorldConnect].
Maybe Doug R. could give us his impressions if he's reading this ...
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
Here is a Lovet Sanders in New England in the early 1700s ...
http://books.google.com/books?id=hv6mN5 ... #PPA247,M1
Elizabeth Goring, wife of Christopher Sanders, was a sister of Lovet
or Lovett Goring.
http://books.google.com/books?id=hv6mN5 ... #PPA247,M1
Elizabeth Goring, wife of Christopher Sanders, was a sister of Lovet
or Lovett Goring.
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
In article <1188487121.187278.255370@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
John Brandon <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes, the brothers are in the NEHGS Roll of armigerous immigrants (no.
290). Christopher's wife is not independently listed in the Roll: the
NEHGS heraldry committee has not previously paid much attention to wives
of immigrants who are themselves armigerous by birth. It's one thing
I've been meaning to clarify.
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net
John Brandon <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:
The 1663 Staffordshire Visitation makes a couple mentions of one
Christopher Sanders, living at that time in Windsor in New England:
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... t+giffard#
PPA154,M1
http://books.google.com/books?id=wmg4AA ... t+giffard#
PPA261,M1
These details seem to match up with an entry in Savage's _Genealogical
Dictionary_ for a gentleman of this name living first at Windsor and
later at Rehoboth:
SAUNDERS, sometimes SANDERS, CHRISTOPHER, Windsor 1671, came short
time bef. as seems prob. had Daniel, wh. d. 22 Dec. 1675, at 11 days
old; Susanna, b. 20 Nov. 1676; Daniel, again 27 Oct. 1678; and
Elizabeth 30 Apr. 1681; and it may be he was unsuccess. in trade, and
rem. to Rehoboth, for one of this name was there 1690. ...
Yes, the brothers are in the NEHGS Roll of armigerous immigrants (no.
290). Christopher's wife is not independently listed in the Roll: the
NEHGS heraldry committee has not previously paid much attention to wives
of immigrants who are themselves armigerous by birth. It's one thing
I've been meaning to clarify.
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
So would you please put up or shut up.
Kay, now don't get testy.
Click the first Google link I provided in the first posting (which is
p. 154 of the Staffs. Visitation). A contemporary note down at the
bottom of the page states:
"The children of William [Goring]:--
Elizabeth, wife of Chr. Sanders, a Merchant in New England ..."
I think Nat was implying that the identity of this wife of Christopher
Sanders may be a *new* fact. Are Christopher and Elizabeth Sanders
your ancestors, Kay?
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
Extracted IGI shows ...
Bristol, Rhode Island
--Lovett Sanders, son of Christian [sic] and Elizbeth, bapt. 7 March
1683
--Elizabeth Sanders, dau. of Christian [sic] and Elizabeth, bapt. 13
October 1684
Bristol, Rhode Island
--Lovett Sanders, son of Christian [sic] and Elizbeth, bapt. 7 March
1683
--Elizabeth Sanders, dau. of Christian [sic] and Elizabeth, bapt. 13
October 1684
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Nathaniel Taylor
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
In article <1188498941.213691.158940@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
John Brandon <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:
I did not pull anything on Sanders (who I haven't heard of, though I
live in his town) other than the Roll, which (predictably) does not list
the wife separately though her identity may indeed already have been
published. One need only check Torrey, Sanborn & Hollick.
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net
John Brandon <starbuck95@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think Nat was implying that the identity of this wife of Christopher
Sanders may be a *new* fact.
I did not pull anything on Sanders (who I haven't heard of, though I
live in his town) other than the Roll, which (predictably) does not list
the wife separately though her identity may indeed already have been
published. One need only check Torrey, Sanborn & Hollick.
Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
Could it be possible that Elizabeth Goring died and
that Christopher remarried another Elizabeth?
I wouldn't think so if they had a son "Lovett Sanders" born in Rhode
Island in 1683. Lovett is a very unusual name, and was shared by a
brother of this Elizabeth Goring (it was their mother's maiden name).
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John Brandon
Re: Christopher and Elizabeth (Goring) Sanders/ Saunders of
I wouldn't think so if they had a son "Lovett Sanders" born in Rhode
Island in 1683. Lovett is a very unusual name, and was shared by a
brother of this Elizabeth Goring (it was their mother's maiden name).
Here are the names "Lovett Goring, Esq." and "Lovett Sanders" side-by-
side in a book --
http://books.google.com/books?id=WJE0AA ... tt+sanders