The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants

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The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants

Legg inn av CPerry » 29 aug 2007 05:43:28

Hi all,

I just came across a copy of Charles Browning's book "The Magna Charta
Barons and Their American Descendants" published in 1898. This book
is the only one I could find that I could afford to get that lists the
descendancy of the participants of the Magna Charta some of my
relatives claim to have descended from. Anyway, I was wondering how
accurate this book was compared to some of the more recent
publications out there concerning the descendants of the Magna Charter
participants

Thanks

Claude P Perry II

CPerry

Re: The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants

Legg inn av CPerry » 29 aug 2007 22:46:24

Guess I should add I got this book free from a someone who had no use
for it.

Claude

On Aug 29, 12:43 am, CPerry <geneology1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I just came across a copy of Charles Browning's book "The Magna Charta
Barons and Their American Descendants" published in 1898. This book
is the only one I could find that I could afford to get that lists the
descendancy of the participants of the Magna Charta some of my
relatives claim to have descended from. Anyway, I was wondering how
accurate this book was compared to some of the more recent
publications out there concerning the descendants of the Magna Charter
participants

Thanks

Claude P Perry II

D. Spencer Hines

Re: The Magna Charta Barons

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 29 aug 2007 23:00:12

An even better book is:

_Magna Charta, King John and The Barons, Arthur Edwin Bye, published by The
Baronial Order Of Magna Charta, 1966.

DSH

"CPerry" <geneology1967@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Guess I should add I got this book free from a someone who had no use
for it.

Claude

On Aug 29, 12:43 am, CPerry <geneology1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I just came across a copy of Charles Browning's book "The Magna Charta
Barons and Their American Descendants" published in 1898. This book
is the only one I could find that I could afford to get that lists the
descendancy of the participants of the Magna Charta some of my
relatives claim to have descended from. Anyway, I was wondering how
accurate this book was compared to some of the more recent
publications out there concerning the descendants of the Magna Charter
participants

Thanks

Claude P Perry II

Nathaniel Taylor

Re: The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants

Legg inn av Nathaniel Taylor » 30 aug 2007 01:50:06

In article <1188362608.874630.136660@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
CPerry <geneology1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I just came across a copy of Charles Browning's book "The Magna Charta
Barons and Their American Descendants" published in 1898. This book
is the only one I could find that I could afford to get that lists the
descendancy of the participants of the Magna Charta some of my
relatives claim to have descended from. Anyway, I was wondering how
accurate this book was compared to some of the more recent
publications out there concerning the descendants of the Magna Charter
participants

In the 1880s Browning started the whole industry of printing collections
of medieval descents to present Americans, and of Americans forming
lineage societies based on such descents. The problem is that Browning
and Wurts (his protege who published many such books in the 1930s to
1950s, and multiplied the number of such descent groups), there were no
critical standards used. This changed in the 1950s with the evolution of
a series of books on medieval descents by F. L. Weis, continued by
Sheppard & Faris, and now others, including Douglas Richardson.

If you connect to a Magna Carta line found in Browning or Wurts but not
in Weis-Sheppard or Richardson, assume it is invalid. Post it in
outline form here, and you will likely find out exactly why and where it
fails.

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

D. Spencer Hines

Re: The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 30 aug 2007 03:52:22

Nat has said he may write a book about genealogical frauds and charlatans.

I hope he does so.

DSH

"Nathaniel Taylor" <nathanieltaylor@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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In article <1188362608.874630.136660@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
CPerry <geneology1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I just came across a copy of Charles Browning's book "The Magna Charta
Barons and Their American Descendants" published in 1898. This book
is the only one I could find that I could afford to get that lists the
descendancy of the participants of the Magna Charta some of my
relatives claim to have descended from. Anyway, I was wondering how
accurate this book was compared to some of the more recent
publications out there concerning the descendants of the Magna Charter
participants

In the 1880s Browning started the whole industry of printing collections
of medieval descents to present Americans, and of Americans forming
lineage societies based on such descents. The problem is that Browning
and Wurts (his protege who published many such books in the 1930s to
1950s, and multiplied the number of such descent groups), there were no
critical standards used. This changed in the 1950s with the evolution of
a series of books on medieval descents by F. L. Weis, continued by
Sheppard & Faris, and now others, including Douglas Richardson.

If you connect to a Magna Carta line found in Browning or Wurts but not
in Weis-Sheppard or Richardson, assume it is invalid. Post it in
outline form here, and you will likely find out exactly why and where it
fails.

Nat Taylor
http://www.nltaylor.net

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