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Fw: Peter Stuyvesant

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 25 aug 2007 10:48:20

Even more confused-------------- the Gary Boyd Roberts URL is in regards to
Livingstone descendants, not Stuyvesant.

Are you now saying that Michael Douglas is a descendant of Peter Stuyvesant?

With best wishes
Leo van de Pass

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com>
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17. Hamilton Fish, 1808-1893, governor of New York, U.S. senator, U.S.
secretary of state, and his wife, Julia Kean; Nicholas Fish & Elizabeth
Stuyvesant, Peter Kean & Sarah Sabina Morris; Peter Stuyvesant & Margaret
Livingston, John Kean & Susan Livingston, Jacob Morris & Mary Coxe;
Gilbert
Livingston & Cornelia Beekman (parents of Margaret), Peter Van Brugh
Livingston & Mary Alexander (parents of Susan), Lewis Morris III
(Revolutionary statesman and signer of the Declaration of Independence), &
Mary Walton; RL elder & Alida Schuyler (parents of Gilbert and Philip),
Philip Livingston & Catherine Van Brugh (parents of Peter Van Brugh
Livingston), Jacob Walton & Maria Beekman; William Walton & Mary
Santvoort;
Thomas Walton & Mary (probably) Lawrence; Thomas Lawrence of Long Island,
N.Y., & Mary ----.

35. Kirk Douglas (Issur Danielovitch Demsky), b. 1916, actor and movie
producer (first wife, Diana [Love] Dill, div. 1950; Thomas Melville Dill &
Ruth Rapalje Neilson; Nicholas Bayard Neilson & Sarah Gifford Chapman;
Theodore Grant Neilson & Catherine Bayard Rutgers; Anthony Rutgers & Sarah
Alexander Johnson; Gerard Rutgers & Margaret Sarah Bayard, Robert Charles
Johnson & Katharine Anne Bayard; Nicholas Bayard & Catherine Livingston;
Peter Van Brugh Livingston & Mary Alexander, see #17 above.

34.. Michael [Kirk] Douglas, b. 1944, actor, film producer and director,
son of #33 above & Diana Dill.

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/educ ... _46901.asp

It seems that Diana DILL, Kirk's first wife and MOTHER of Michael, has the
Olde New York and New Amsterdam ancestors and the linkage to Pieter
Stuyvesant NOT Kirk Douglas himself.

DSH

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D. Spencer Hines

Re: Peter Stuyvesant

Legg inn av D. Spencer Hines » 25 aug 2007 18:12:00

Peter Stuyvesant & his wife, Margaret Livingston, don't you see them
below?...

That Peter Stuyvesant is a member of the Stuyvesant Family -- so there's
your link to the Stuyvesant Family.

Ancestors of Michael Douglas -- according to Gary Boyd Roberts....

Through his mother, Diana [Love] Dill, Kirk Douglas's first wife.

Allegedly the SISTER of THE Peter Stuyvesant is the ancestor of Michael
Douglas.

But you had KIRK Douglas as the Stuyvesant descendant.

That appears to be mistaken...

Right?

Aloha,

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:mailman.1271.1188035319.7287.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...

Even more confused-------------- the Gary Boyd Roberts URL is in regards
to Livingstone descendants, not Stuyvesant.

Are you now saying that Michael Douglas is a descendant of Peter
Stuyvesant?

With best wishes
Leo van de Pass

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Peter Stuyvesant


17. Hamilton Fish, 1808-1893, governor of New York, U.S. senator, U.S.
secretary of state, and his wife, Julia Kean; Nicholas Fish & Elizabeth
Stuyvesant, Peter Kean & Sarah Sabina Morris; Peter Stuyvesant & Margaret
Livingston, John Kean & Susan Livingston, Jacob Morris & Mary Coxe;
Gilbert
Livingston & Cornelia Beekman (parents of Margaret), Peter Van Brugh
Livingston & Mary Alexander (parents of Susan), Lewis Morris III
(Revolutionary statesman and signer of the Declaration of Independence),
&
Mary Walton; RL elder & Alida Schuyler (parents of Gilbert and Philip),
Philip Livingston & Catherine Van Brugh (parents of Peter Van Brugh
Livingston), Jacob Walton & Maria Beekman; William Walton & Mary
Santvoort;
Thomas Walton & Mary (probably) Lawrence; Thomas Lawrence of Long Island,
N.Y., & Mary ----.

35. Kirk Douglas (Issur Danielovitch Demsky), b. 1916, actor and movie
producer (first wife, Diana [Love] Dill, div. 1950; Thomas Melville Dill
&
Ruth Rapalje Neilson; Nicholas Bayard Neilson & Sarah Gifford Chapman;
Theodore Grant Neilson & Catherine Bayard Rutgers; Anthony Rutgers &
Sarah
Alexander Johnson; Gerard Rutgers & Margaret Sarah Bayard, Robert Charles
Johnson & Katharine Anne Bayard; Nicholas Bayard & Catherine Livingston;
Peter Van Brugh Livingston & Mary Alexander, see #17 above.

34.. Michael [Kirk] Douglas, b. 1944, actor, film producer and director,
son of #33 above & Diana Dill.

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/educ ... _46901.asp

It seems that Diana DILL, Kirk's first wife and MOTHER of Michael, has
the Olde New York and New Amsterdam ancestors and the linkage to Pieter
Stuyvesant NOT Kirk Douglas himself.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

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