Fw: Peter Stuyvesant

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Fw: Peter Stuyvesant

Legg inn av Leo van de Pas » 24 aug 2007 08:17:57

See below

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peter Stuyvesant


Leo, you said:

If anyone is interested, let me know and I will send it.

It seems I am in an excluded category.

A Party Of One?...

Do you really want to carry on this cat fight indefinitely?

It would seem so.

Peter Stewart has actually gone so far as to orchestrate a Boycott &
Vilify campaign against me.

I have NEVER done that against a SINGLE person on USENET. But you will
note that I've not responded in kind to his most recent rubbish-strewn
attack -- which is appended below and compares me to a sadistic sergeant
major who was "justly" murdered.

Draw your own conclusions.

I'm trying to look FORWARD -- you apparently want to look BACKWARD.

======= You seem unable to grasp that I am looking FORWARD I am simply
trying to avoid the "Peter HILARIOUS Stewart" treatment you so eagerly dish
out in all directions.

If you were genuinely interested in genealogy that would have/should have
been clear by now, you only use the subject to belittle and offend people.

VICTORIA IT COULDN'T GET ANY BETTER

Look in the mirror and see what you have been doing. You have betrayed Peter
Stewart's trust in the vilest way possible.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas



Vide infra

DSH

"Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:mailman.1209.1187926039.7287.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...

This request by Spencer Hines puzzles me.

For the last several years he has been to busy with "other things" to be
bothered with genealogy.

Also Spencer Hines has clearly displayed in his treatment of Peter
Stewart that what is given him in kindness one moment, the next it will
be thrown back into the face of that person. Why should I open myself to
that kind of treatment?

Leo, I didn't post ANYTHING which Peter disagreed to my posting.

The information I collect, in the long run, will be accessible on my
website. Watch that space for the next update :-) Admittedly, the files
I make available make the information about a person's descendants much
easier accessible.

Of course, which is, I guess why you don't want to send it to me.

Why don't you just post a link to the Peter Stuyvesant download at your
web site?

Thank you.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Peter Stuyvesant

Yes, do send it please to me.

DSH

"Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> wrote in message
news:mailman.1201.1187910966.7287.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...

A very kind person helped me with information about the Stuyvesant
family, I have digested this and made a file just to see what it brought
together and it is quite amazing (to me) who are to be found amongst the
descendants of this family. Kirk Douglas, Montgomery Clift, Eleanor
Roosevelt, Robert Traill Spence Lowel IV, Adam von Trott zu Solz
(involved in the conspiracy against Hitler), Princess Maria Antonia de
Braganca, Infanta of Portugal, and many others.

If anyone is interested, let me know and I will send it.

With best wishes
Leo van de Pas

----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Stewart" <p_m_stewart@msn.com
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Contributions of D. Spencer Hines

"Richard Smyth at Road Runner" <smyth@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1165.1187882663.7287.gen-medieval@rootsweb.com...
Nothing would come as a more welcome relief to me than [a]n end to
these
tiresome exchanges: the aim is to impress on the very stupid and slow
Brandon, as on Hines, that further lies and imbecilities will only
bring on
worse embarrassment from every single vexatious post. The alternatives
to
this have demonstrably NOT worked. Eventually this attempt might. You
and
Todd have NO evidence to conclude otherwise, and indeed there is
plainly
some to the contrary of your wishful view.

In previous postings Stewart has said that the fact that Hines stopped
posting
after Stewart had whacked him was proof that Hines stopped posting
because
Stewart had whacked him.

This is not what I have said: my point is that Hines took off from SGM
after _he_ had made such a fool of himself in front of this intelligent
and critical audience that he thought it better to sit out of discussion
here for a time. I think this could and should happen again. He is
clearly not insenate, as he tries rather feebly to defend himself at
times and resorts to sillier & more hysterical capitalisations and fibs -
orthographic and factual distortions - when running low on his phoney
self-confidence.

My contribution to this was just to demonstrate the proofs and expound
the logic that, along with the well-deserved ridicule and insults,
provoked him into further, more stupid and more corrosive
self-revelations - just like this time round.

The fatal trouble for Hines as a controversialist is that he hates
himself more than he hates the truth, or anyone else.

The experiment that Don and Todd reject in advance has never been tried,
and I only propose it without the certainty of success: this is, that
EVERY reader who disdains the nonsense and lies from any poster should
SAY SO, all a the same time. If there are hundreds of subscribers
altogether, the shock of this _might_ be a rather heavy straw to break
the feral dromedaries' backs, when they are depending on the complicit
silence of readers to get a feeling of twisted vindication, or false
victory.

Bullies are always the same inadequate and cowardly beast, underneath
whatever appearances they present. Australia produces ts share, but we do
tend to despise the type more than most, perhaps from the cultural
heritage of convicts up against sadistic prison guards.

There is a famous story of a sergeat-major in a transit barracks at
Regents Park in wartime: he was a notorious piece of work who had
brutalised servicemen from Canada, America, South Africa, New Zealand,
with impunity, every day for some time. Then the first Australian troops
came through late one night - and the next morning he was found floating
in the Maida Vale canal, with a knife in his ribs.

Peter Stewart



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