I feel I am dim (and I am not the only one) can you spell out better what
you are referring to? Like Volume 1.3 Tafel 5? I do not understand what you
mean with Pt What are you looking for? I will gladly inspect it for you ,
or if I can (possibly in two halves) scan this Tafel for you. Let me know
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas.
Canberra, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richardson" <royalancestry@msn.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval,soc.history.medieval,alt.history.british
To: <gen-medieval@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Maud de Holand, wife of Hugh de Courtenay, Knt.,and Waleran de
Luxembourg, Count of Ligny & St.-Pol
Dear Newsgroup ~
As John Higgins has indicated, the current Family History Library
catalog indicates that the Family History Library holds Vol. 1, Pt.1-3
of the new series of Europäische Stammtafeln. They also hold Vol. 2,
Vol. 3, Pt. 1-5, and Volumes 4-21, all in the new series prepared by
Detlev Schwennicke.
What Mr. Higgins doesn't know is that Vol. 1, Pts. 1-3, Vol. 3, Pt. 5,
and Volumes 14-21 are not presently on the shelf. As far as I know,
Volume 1, Parrts 1-3 have NEVER been put out on the shelf. Rather,
the catalog indicates that most of the missing volumes are on
permanent loan, which fact Mr. Higgins sadly overlooked in his post
today. That means that these volumes are held in private by the
library staff and are not kept on the public shelves. See the weblink
below for the volumes with the "On Loan" designation which includes
Vol. 1, Pt. 2:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... umns=*,0,0
At such time as I have an opportunity to view the revised Luxembourg
chart in Vol. 1, Pt. 2, I should be happy to comment on its content.
If Mr. Higgins is correct that the revised chart is an improvement
over the older Luxembourg chart in Vol. 6, pg. 28, that is well and
good. However, my comments about the errors and omissions of the
older Luxembourg chart in Vol. 6, pg. 28 published in 1978 still
stand.
I note that Mr. Higgins tells us that the revised Luxembourg chart by
Mr. Schwennicke indicates that Bonne de Bar, Countess of Ligny and
Saint-Pol, left a will dated in 1536. If so, I should like to report
it immediately to Guiness Book of Records, as Bonne would have been
over 150 years old at the time of the making of this will. Surely
Mr. Higgins meant 1436, which is the year Bonne is stated to have died
in the following source:.
Société des naturalistes et archéologues du nord de la Meuse, 12
(1900): 10.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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