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In re: F 9/11: facts you'll never get "mainstream":
The Nine Lies of Fahrenheit 9/11
RNC ^ | July 12, 2004
Posted on 07/12/2004 3:07:49 PM PDT by RWR8189
Fahrenheit Lie #1
National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice is depicted in the movie
telling a reporter, "Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what
happened on 9/11."
The scene deceptively shows the Administration directly blaming Saddam
and his regime for the attacks on 9/11 by taking her comments out of
context. Now read the entire statement made by Ms. Rice to the reporter:
"Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It's
not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in
9/11. But if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of
ideologies of hatred that led people to drive airplanes into buildings
in New York." (CBS News, November 28, 2003 Interview)
Fahrenheit Lie #2
In the film, Moore leads viewers to believe that members of bin Laden's
family were allowed to exit the country after the attacks without
questioning by authorities. o The September 11th commission, on the
other hand, reported that 22 of the 26 people on the flight that took
most of the bin Laden family out of the country were interviewed and
found to be innocent of suspicion. (Sumana Chatterjee and David
Golstein, "Analyzing 'Fahrenheit 9/11': It's Accurate To A Degree,"
Seattle Times, 07/05/04)
The commission reported that "each of the flights we have studied was
investigated by the FBI and dealt with in a professional manner prior to
its departure."
Fahrenheit Lie #3
Moore claims that James Bath, a friend of President Bush from his time
with the Texas Air National Guard, might have funneled bin Laden money
to an unsuccessful Bush oil-drilling firm called Arbusto Energy.
Bill Allison, managing editor for the Center for Public Integrity (an
independent watchdog group in Washington, D.C.), on the other hand,
said, "We looked into bin Laden money going to Arbusto, and we never
found anything to back that up," (Sumana Chatterjee and David Golstein,
"Analyzing 'Fahrenheit 9/11': It's Accurate To A Degree," Seattle Times,
07/05/04)
Fahrenheit Lie #4
The movie claims that the Bush administration "supported closing
veterans hospitals." o "The Department of Veterans Affairs did propose
closing seven hospitals in areas with declining populations where the
hospitals were underutilized, and whose veterans could be served by
other hospitals" (Dave Kopel, Independence Institute, "Fifty-nine
Deceits In Fahrenheit 9/11," http://i2i.org/ Accessed, 07/11/04)
But Moore's film fails to mention that the Department also proposed
building new hospitals in areas where needs were growing, and also
proposed building blind rehabilitation centers and spinal cord injury
centers (News Release, Department of Veterans Affairs, http://www.va.gov,
10/24/03)
Fahrenheit Lie #5
Conspiracy theories abound about the reasons for the War on Terror, but
none is more outlandish than the one propagandized in Moore's film: that
the Afghan war was fought solely to enable the Unocal company to build
an oil pipeline (the plan for which was abandoned by the company in
1998).
Moore "suggests that one of the first official acts of Afghan President
Hamid Karzai … was to help seal a deal for … Unocal to build an oil
pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean.
It alleges that Karzai had been a Unocal consultant." (emphasis added)
(Sumana Chatterjee and David Golstein, "Analyzing 'Fahrenheit 9/11':
It's Accurate To A Degree," Seattle Times, 07/05/04)
Unocal spokesman, Barry Lane, says unequivocally, "Karzai was never, in
any capacity, an employee, consultant or a consultant of a consultant,"
and Unocal never had a plan to build a Caspian Sea pipeline. (Sumana
Chatterjee and David Golstein, "Analyzing 'Fahrenheit 9/11': It's
Accurate To A Degree," Seattle Times, 07/05/04)
Moore mentions that the Taliban visited Texas while President Bush was
governor to discuss a potential project with Unocal.
While Moore implies that then-Governor Bush met with the Taliban, no
such meeting occurred. The Taliban delegation did, however, meet with
the Clinton Administration on this visit. (Matt Labash, "Un-Moored From
Reality; Fahrenheit 9/11 Connects Dots That Aren't There," Weekly
Standard, July 5-July 12 Issue)
Fahrenheit Lie #6
Even readily available figures are exaggerated for effect in Fahrenheit
9/11. The claims have a basis in reality, making them believable, but
are false nonetheless. * In the film, Moore asks Craig Unger, author of
House of Bush, House of Saud, "How much money do the Saudis have
invested in America, roughly?" to which Unger responds, "Uh, I've heard
figures as high as $860 billion."
The Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy reports that
worldwide Saudi investment approximated $700 billion - a figure much
lower than Unger alleges the Saudi government to have invested in the
U.S. (Tanya C. Hsu, Institute For Research: Middle Eastern Policy, "The
United States Must Not Neglect Saudi Arabian Investment," http://www.irmep.org,
Accessed 07/11/04)
The Institute reports that 60 percent of that $700 billion - roughly
$420 billion, less than half of what Unger "heard" - was actually
invested in the United States by the Saudi government.
Fahrenheit Lie #7
"Moore's film suggests that [President] Bush has close family ties to
the bin Laden family - principally through [President] Bush's father's
relationship with the Carlyle Group, a private investment firm. The
president's father, George H.W. Bush, was a senior adviser to the
Carlyle Group's Asian affiliate until recently; members of the bin Laden
family - who own one of Saudi Arabia's biggest construction firms - had
invested $2 million in a Carlyle Group fund. Bush Sr. and the bin Ladens
have since severed ties with the Carlyle Group, which in any case has a
bipartisan roster of partners, including Bill Clinton's former SEC
chairman Arthur Levitt. The movie quotes author Dan Briody claiming that
the Carlyle Group 'gained' from September 11 because it owned United
Defense, a military contractor. Carlyle Group spokesman Chris Ullman
notes that United Defense holds a special distinction among U.S. defense
contractors that is not mentioned in Moore's movie: the firm's $11
billion Crusader artillery rocket system developed for the U.S. Army is
one of the only weapons systems canceled by the Bush administration."
(Dave Kopel, Independence Institute, "Fifty-nine Deceits In Fahrenheit
9/11," http://i2i.org/ Accessed, 07/11/04)
"There is another famous investor in Carlyle whom Moore does not
reveal: George Soros. But the fact that the anti-Bush billionaire
[Soros] has invested in Carlyle would detract from Moore's simplistic
conspiracy theory." (Dave Kopel, Independence Institute, "Fifty-nine
Deceits In Fahrenheit 9/11," http://i2i.org/ Accessed, 07/11/04)
Fahrenheit Lie #8
Not revealing relevant facts is dishonest enough. But to paint the Bush
Administration as sympathetic and friendly to the Taliban prior to
September 11, is not only dishonest, but maliciously so. * Moore shows
film of a March 2001 visit to the United States by a Taliban delegation,
claiming that the Administration "welcomed" the Taliban official, Sayed
Hashemi, "to tour the United States to help improve the image of the
Taliban."
But the Administration did not welcome the Taliban with open arms. In
fact, the State Department rejected the Taliban's claim that it had
complied with U.S. requests to isolate bin Laden.
To demonstrate even further the Administration's contempt for the
Taliban and its illegitimacy, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher
- on the day of the terrorist regime's visit - said, "We don't recognize
any government in Afghanistan."
Fahrenheit Lie #9
Moore does more than simply downplay the threat posed to the U.S. by
the former Hussein regime in Iraq. He goes so far as to assert that
Saddam "never threatened to attack the United States."
If by "attack the United States" one interprets this claim to mean that
Saddam never threatened to send troops to the United States, then Mr.
Moore has a point. * But Saddam Hussein clearly sought to attack the
United States within his own sphere of influence, even though he didn't
have the resources to attack U.S. soil from his side of the world:
On November 15, 1997, "the main propaganda organ for the Saddam regime,
the newspaper Babel (which was run by Saddam Hussein's son Uday),
ordered: 'American and British interests, embassies, and naval ships in
the Arab region should be the targets of military operations and
commando attacks by Arab political forces.'" (Dave Kopel, Independence
Institute, "Fifty-nine Deceits In Fahrenheit 9/11," http://i2i.org/
Accessed, 07/11/04)
In addition, "Iraqi forces fired, every day, for 10 years, on the
aircraft that patrolled the no-fly zones and staved off further genocide
in the north and south of the country," (Source: New York Times,
12/1/03).
Saddam Hussein also provided safe haven to terrorists who killed
Americans, like Abu Nidal; funded suicide bombers in Israel who
certainly killed Americans; and ran the Iraqi police, which plotted to
assassinate former President George Bush.
CRITICISM OF FAHRENHEIT 9/11
Newsweek Columnists Isikoff & Hosenball: Moore "Twists and Bends" The
Facts. "But for all the reasonable points he makes, on more than a few
occasions in the movie Moore twists and bends the available facts and
makes glaring omissions in ways that end up clouding the serious
political debate he wants to provoke." (By Michael Isikoff and Mark
Hosenball, "More Distortions From Michael Moore," Newsweek Online,
6/30/04)
Christopher Hitchens: Fahrenheit 9/11 "Sinister Exercise In Moral
Frivolity." "To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would
almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To
describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a
discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe
it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely
disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of
abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of
'dissenting' bravery." (Christopher Hitchens, "Unfairenheit 9/11; The
Lies Of Michael Moore," Slate, 6/21/04)
Former NY Mayor Ed Koch: Fahrenheit 9/11 "Propaganda" And "Screed." "I
am a movie critic, so I went to see "Fahrenheit 9/11." The movie is a
well-done propaganda piece and screed as has been reported by most
critics. It is not a documentary which seeks to present the facts
truthfully. The most significant offense that movie commits is to
cheapen the political debate by dehumanizing the President and
presenting him as a cartoon. … Now that no WMDs have yet been found, was
the invasion to end the reign of Saddam Hussein, who had killed and
tortured hundreds of thousands of his own citizens, still supportable?
Moore thinks not. I think, yes. The movie's diatribes, sometimes amusing
and sometimes manifestly unfair, will not change any views. They will
simply cheapen the national debate and reinforce the opinions on both
sides." (Ed Koch, Op/Ed, "Koch: Moore's Propaganda Film Cheapens Debate,
Polarizes Nation," World Tribune, 6/29/04)
Washington Post Columnist Richard Cohen: Fahrenheit 9/11 "Silly" And
"Incomprehensible." "I brought a notebook with me when I went to see
Michael Moore's 'Fahrenheit 9/11' and in the dark made notes before I
gave up, defeated by the utter stupidity of the movie. … 'Fahrenheit
9/11' is not, as proclaimed, a sure sign that Bush is on his way out but
is instead a warning to the Democrats to keep the loony left at a safe
distance. … Moore's depiction of why Bush went to war is so silly and so
incomprehensible that it is easily dismissed. As far as I can tell, it
is a farrago of conspiracy theories. … It is so juvenile in its
approach, so awful in its journalism, such an inside joke for people who
already hate Bush, that I found myself feeling a bit sorry for a
president who is depicted mostly as a befuddled dope. I fear how it will
play to the undecided." (Richard Cohen, "Baloney, Moore Or Less," The
Washington Post, 7/1/04)